Coal Ila 10yr old '91 Vintage 43% Alc/Vol - Signatory
This is my first experience of an Islay and I do hope it is not a signatory(pardon the pun) flavour...I really didn't like this at all! I would say that is tastes like soap. It really is just foul!!(Not Fowl!! )
I am going to take the 2 bottles I have and see if reaging it in my oak barrels provide some more tasty flavours!! I will empty them into my barrel which is ex-port(1st fill) - ex-bourbon(just need to dump the remaining spirit)
I'm sure a 30yr old in the CC would be close to half the price of something similar in an OB or a higher quality malt from an IB...??
Looking at it from an IB's point of view...if finances are running low then casks have to be bottled and I would think that the cheaper costing casks, i.e. What the IB paid for the spirit, would be bottled first and as has been said it may not be the best bottling.
I have just got hold of a bowmore darkest so I'm looking forward to trying that!!
Anyway I will still re-barrel the Coal Ila and I will report back on my findings in a few months...
Caol Ila is not a typically Isla (whatever that means). I am very much a fan, but the olivy, peppery taste takes time for some. Younger Caol Ilas usually are nice.
What everyone says about the batch variation of Indys is spot on.
Of course,my experince is limited to the ones below, so I am no expert, as i have only tried 8 expressions.
Caol Ila 9yo 1996/2005 (58.1%, G & M for Binnys, Cask 1691, 1/320 bottles)
Caol Ila 7yo 1989 (43%, Signatory)
Caol Ila 10yo 1993/2003 (43% Dun Bheagan, UCF) Rum Cask, cask #90221
Caol Ila 12yo (43%, OB, 2005)
Caol Ila 13yo 1988 (40%, G & M Connoisseurs Choice)
Caol Ila 15yo (43%, OB, Flora & Fauna)
Caol Ila 18yo (43%, OB, circa 2005)
Caol Ila 1981 19yo (43%, McGibbon's Provedence)
CI not a "typical" Islay? Well, I can't say that's wrong, if that's what you think, but given that CI was rebuilt in the '70's to provide large quantities of Islay-type malt for blends, I'd say it was quite intentionally typical. The problem with thinking about the typical or quintessential Islay (or Speysider or lowlander or whatever) is that the whiskies we really love are exceptional, and therefore anything but typical. In this context, being "typical", or "according to type", implies a lack of distinctiveness, or mediocrity. Not to say that applies to Caol Ila specifically, but the owners didn't think to bottle the stuff as a single until fairly recently, and only because malt-lovers like us discovered it via IB's and created a market for it.
The scent I don't like is when it smells like that "liquid smoke" stuff that you add to barbecue sauce or marinade or whatever.
In regards to this topical discussion, I would think an Islay whisky(and more specifically speaking, the whisky being matured on Islay and not just distilled) would have more distinctive flavours being...salt/brine/seaweed, etc...
Don't forget to let us know Mr. T. what your bottle is...when you get home of course
I have another IB in CI so I look forward to seeing what that is like...
- Coal Ila 12yr old '92 DT Whisky Galore range
Thanks for the input too people...Cheers!!
I agree with Drich about the typical taste of peppery olive oil (like a good Kalamata oil) but I also think it smells of smoked cod. As for the smoke character I would say I find it fairly similar to the Ardbeg Ten. I think they are fairly similar actually.....
The Bruichladdich 3D Second Edition however really smells like ash and not phenolic medicinal.
lexvo wrote:My first expierence with Caol Ila wasn't that good either. I tasted a 11yo from an IB (can't remember which). But after that I tried the 12y, CS and 18y OB's and I find all very nice.
they are VERY IMPRESSIVE, compared to some of the flavor coated BS coming out of islay these days like Buggadulaveg Cottoncandy spun whisky double matured in Dill Pickle barrels.
The only other independent Caol Ilas I have had were:
14yr Cognac “Private Collection” Gordon MacPhail
Caol Ila 1992/2002 (50%, Wilson & Morgan, Extra Strength)
Caol Ila 1993/2003 (50%, Wilson & Morgan, Extra Strength)
The best of these was the GM Private Collection bottle.
Of the OBs I have had the 12, 18, Cask Strength, and 25. Very few whiskies scored higher for me than the Caol Ila 25yo 1978/2004 (59.4%, OB). That was mind-blowing stuff ... at lot of everything and all good.
Scotchio wrote:I suppose when people talk about Islay style they usually mean that peat plays a big part in the flavour profile.
I think that's an interesting statement and I think some of those same people miss the other part, that there is a maritime quality to Islay whiskies that is simply missing from peated Speyside whiskies (for example, which is not a bad thing they just taste different). If you look at Springbank and Glen Scotia you'll detect some common characteristics with Islay whiskies but not to such a degree. Current Bruichladdich's like the 10 and the 15 are in some ways the 'missing link' between Islay peated whiskies and Campbeltown.
TheLiquorBaron wrote:Don't forget to let us know Mr. T. what your bottle is...when you get home of course
Cask #13947, 27/10/90--27/8/03. The only really bad Caol Ila I've ever had. If I recall correctly, someone here--jimidrammer, I think--had the same, and someone else--MGillespie, maybe?--had a sister cask, and had similar opinions. How's my memory, guys?
I remember thinking that it must have been a tired cask--very little color and wood influence.
Edit: Not Mark, but Crieftan, who had cask #13944 and said it was good. It was unfortunate that the bottles were all gone at time of discussion--a swap of samples would have been an intriguing study of the effect of wood on spirit from a single distillation (if I can make that assumption).
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