again and again we were told that size matters not. Quality does matter though and attitude and of course the mood you are in not to forget the surroundings and the time and place. As to drinking whisky I out myself as a "free pourer". The glases I use have meassure lines but I tend to ignoring them. Again it depends on my mood. Sometimes I hit the mark and have poured exactly the 2 centi litres of the first mark of the glas sometimes I have a double or more related to that meassure.
Greetings and a late "Welcome" to this forum from me.
toshie wrote:Kallaskander, thanks for the welcome. I've found this forum to be full of friendly people willing to offer advice and support and I'm glad I found it. My pre-metric education means I struggle a bit with conversions, so I'm not sure how much 2 centilitres is - although it certainly sounds like a 'friendly measure'!
I don't remember my conversions exactly, but I think 2 centilitres is a little under three quarters of an ounce.
Or you can just pour whatever that looks nice
1 dram = 1/8 fluid ounce
2 drams = 1/4 fluid ounce..... right up to 8 drams = 1 fluid ounce.
Then - to clarify if this was referrring to U.S fluid ounces or UK fluid ounces I revisited a website handy for such conversions to confirm - and it seems to agree - that 8 drams = 1 fluid ounce (U.S. liquid).
According to Webster's Dictionary - a dram is 1. "a unit of apothecaries' weight equal to 3.89 grams or 2. "a unit of avoirdupois weight eaual to 1.77 grams (and with the concentration of French ownership - we may see this gain in recognition )... or 3. "a small drink of alcoholic liquor" ... Oh, where is Mr. Picky when we need him???
Otherwise - I understand that "dram" has been colloquialized to mean: a drink amongst friends, and I'd agree with Lambda:
Or you can just pour whatever that looks nice
Kallaskander's calculator is almost certainly suffering from decimal displacement. ("Kallaskander's Calculator" would be a cool name for a band.)
Standard measure in a pub in the UK is 35ml, or 3.5cl, which works out to almost exactly an ounce and a quarter (US measure). This will fill your Glencairn glass just about to its widest point, a tad lower, perhaps (and don't ask me what a tad is). It seems like a reasonable measure to me, and it will get you twenty servings out of a 700ml bottle. That's about what I aim for.
Ah! From the glossary in Jefford's Peat Smoke & Spirit:
dram A measure of whisky of indeterminate and variable size. The Oxford English Dictionary states that it originally referred to half a fluid ounce (2.8 cl) [I assume imperial measure--TH] of medicine, and thus by extension became 'a small draught' of any liquor taken on medicinal grounds. Charles MacLean suggeststhat a dram equated to one-third of a pint (18.9 cl) in the taverns of early nineteenth century Edinburgh, and to one gill (14.8 cl) as the standard issue in the distillery dramming tradition [being the practice of distributing new-make spirit to the distillery employees during the work day]
I suspect the 1/8 ounce dram is a perfumist's or chemist's measure. My Dad went to high school with Lyndon Larouche (a perennial fringe presidential candidate here in the US) and tells this story: The science teacher, when angered by a student, would invariably respond with "I'll --- you!", with the blank filled in with a pertinent word used by the offending student. One day some bullies dumped some perfume into Larouche's hair, and the teacher found him trying to wash it out in the sink. Asked to explain himself, Larouche said, "Sir, I am attempting to extract a dram of perfume from my hair." "I'll dram you!" said the teacher, which sounded just profane enough to break up the class. Similar hilarity ensued from another instance in which Larouche claimed to be conducting an experiment in electrical flux.
you are absolutely right, my calculator is not too well at the moment. "Kallaskander´s Calculator" IS a good name for a band. If anybody wants to use it feel free to do so please.
I´ll stick to the rule of thumb an pour what seem apropriate.
Greetings to Mr. Picky, I just love him.
with a bottle of Macallan 18 years 1978 I bought years ago came a meassure. The card attached read that this meassure was to be used in case my friends or guests should like the Macallan overmuch, which would only be natural and was to be expected.
This emergency meassure was - a gold coloured thimble!
I never used it, though. And I did not lose a friend since then.
toshie wrote:I notice Bamber from Bristol had a triple Ardbeg Very Young as he watched the sun go down last night and it got me wondering: how much IS a dram? Do most Forumites free pour or use a measure? Personally I like to know how much I'm drinking, so I use a quarter gill measure - not that I'm suggesting I confine myself to one quarter gill you understand
Hi toshie - I also like to keep track so drink multiples of 25 mls.
edit: that, of course, should be triple. Mmm! Perhaps I'll stick to singles before posting
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