Aidan wrote:I think it is more glen gearich, with a very soft "ich." That is how it would be pronounced in Gaelic. It is just hard to hear properly on the website recording.
No, its not a soft ich. Its simply geeree. Its a local name for an area 25 NW west of Aberdeen. There's not a glen, nor is the distillery exactly in the Garioch area, but, hey ho, why let fact get in the way of a good name.
I wouldn't trust all the pronunciations on that site either. Example: he pronounces Ledaig exactly like its written, but the blurb on the back of the box and bottle, written by Burn Stewart, says "the name is pronounced "Led-chig""
Is Daluaine not pronounced Dall-you-an, rather than like Dalwhinnie as Pip Hills suggests? Guy, where are you?
I'm told that the gaelic dialects are indeed quite mixed and that the scottish includes quite a doric influence but I'm not a linguist and the only gaelic I 'know' is on whisky boxes so all I can do is pass along what I've heard and read which could be wrong. As listed above, if locals can't agree that what can the rest of us hope for? If you say "Glen Gary Och" I'll still know what you mean
Admiral wrote:At an SMWS meeting a year or so ago, two Scotsmen got into an argument as to whether it was Glen Geeree, or Glen Geerich.
The one that was born in Glen Garioch won the argument!
(Still, if two locals can't agree on the pronunciation, what hope to the rest of us have?)
As I said,
There's not a glen
if locals can't agree
The locals do agree. I am a local and I have never heard anyone local calling it ich or och. Its doric not gaelic.
Did anyone see Roman Road on TV over xmas? The Scottish actor, John Gordon Sinclair, walked into the pub and asked for 2 large Glen Garr-ee-ochs please. So, even the Scots get it wrong.
JUERG GLUTZ-KURMANN wrote:According to a CD from Pip Hills it is pronounced "Allt-a-vanya". But it is with a lot of other names, they can vary from glen to glen or island to island. A tricky one is Dailuaine which I don't dare to write as I think it's wrong anyway. Yes, Glen-Geerie is what everybody seems to pronounce.
To get back to the original question about Allt a Bhainne, the above pronunciation is indeed the closest you will get phonetically in English to the Gaelic.
As for Glen Garioch, it's debatable as to whether Gaelic was ever widely used in the North East region of Scotland. It seems the distilleries in this area are using the romantic image of Gaelic to sell their product, even though it's not representative of the region, much like kilts & bagpipes representing Scotland when it was only the Highlanders & Islanders of the North West half (very roughly) of Scotland who used them.
I would say you'd pronnounce it differently before and after drinking it.
Unfortunately, few (if any) of the Chivas folks are Gaelic speakers. Everyone from the company I have met in Paisley, Keith and Glenlivet referred to the distillery as "Allt a Bane"!
But I don't think it's a problem - so long as everyone knows what everyone else is talking about
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