The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

[Ian Logan]

K-mile,

People talk about Islays with seafood but the fresh, zestiness of the 12yo make it just as good. Just wish I had some smoked salmon around

[K-Mile]

Great to read the various impressions on the glassware. I only have Glencairns here with me, but I can imagine a slightly different balance with other kinds of glassware.

Mikey, enjoy if you decide to open it!

I might get one of the 15yo if I happen to stumble upon it. It makes a nice shelf in my new cabinet, a lineup of Glenlivets

Ian, I can surely imagine some smoked salmon working fine with this one. Zesty is the word I was looking for. A dram that comes close might be the Cragganmore 12yo (tried that in combination with smoked salmon, very nice!) but I can see this one being just a bit fresher.

[K-Mile]

Time to open up the Nadurra. Any advice on this one?

[Ian Logan]

Try the Nadurra straight first but if its a sample you got from Matt its around 59.7%abv so water is a must at least 50%.
Apples and banana for me in here but with time a lot of fruit will come through.
the palate is where you will see the 1st fill american casks coming through with vanill and honey.
Its damn near chewable the mouth coatting is so heavy.

[Ian Logan]

Ganga,

Congratulations as a double gold member, where is Matt!!!

[K-Mile]

Congrats Ganga! I'll raise my glass to you!

[Deactivated Member]

It sounds like this was a great evening, sorry I couldn't attend.
Maybe next time.
MT

[Ian Logan]

MT,

As I said to K-mile and it goes for any memebrs, send me a PM if there any questions etc. that I can help with on any of Chivas Bros prtfolio.
I am back in the office next week and will act on what we discussed earlier.

[K-Mile]

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The Glenlivet 16 years old 'Nadurra'
Nose : Apples, smooth, smells really 'full', like banana.
Palate : Very smooth for a 57.2% ABV. A bit dry on the edges of my tongue, but I can even tate the fruitiness. Really full body. Banana.
Finish : Apples again, vanilla, lingers on quite long. Pear.
Comment : This is batch 0606A. Very tasteful for a CS dram. There is a taste explosion right after swallowing that I cannot define properly. Very nice, but short lived. Will need a second and third visit

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[K-Mile]

Try the Nadurra straight first but if its a sample you got from Matt its around 59.7%abv so water is a must at least 50%.
Apples and banana for me in here but with time a lot of fruit will come through.
the palate is where you will see the 1st fill american casks coming through with vanill and honey.
Its damn near chewable the mouth coatting is so heavy.

You're absolutely right on the chewable part. That's really nice. I have batch 0606A at 57.2% ABV, but I didn't feel the need to water it down just yet. Very tasteful neat.

The images I post with my notes are the actual bottles, and are clickable for a larger version.

Now where's that 18 year old...

[Deactivated Member]

Thanks Ian, I have no further questions at the moment, but look forward to our future discussions.

Meanwhile, I am looking at which Glenlivet I have in my personal collection.
Unfortunately, it doesn't feature prominently, but it does feature:

http://www.whisky-emporium.com/Files/074Glenlivet.htm
http://www.whisky-emporium.com/Files/078Glenlivet12.htm
http://www.whisky-emporium.com/Files/303GLGolfMuirfld.htm
http://www.whisky-emporium.com/Files/305GLGolfTurnbry.htm
http://www.whisky-emporium.com/Files/307GLGolfRylTroon.htm
http://www.whisky-emporium.com/Files/304GLGolfStAndrws.htm
http://www.whisky-emporium.com/Files/306GLGolfRylDorn.htm
http://www.whisky-emporium.com/Files/314GlenlivCastles.htm

MT

[K-Mile]

Cheers Mikey!

MT: That are quite some Glenlivet's there. It's fun to compare the current label on the 12yo with the earlier ones. They are alike, but very much different as well. It does has a distinct style to it, though.

[K-Mile]

K-Mile,

You should have some fun revisiting this thread at a later date. I tried several different bottlings in numerous glasses. There are lots of notes included the "bananas". Enjoy the 18.

I will! I read through the notes quickly, because there are so many of them and I didn't want to be too much influenced up front. I will read and compare them with my own notes later, see what different glasses bring out that I couldn't find or couldn't get my finger on.

[Deactivated Member]

As I mentioned previously, I really love the French Oak but I have not as yet tried the Nadurra.
After reading this discussion I think I will try it soon.
I may even choose this one for the shelf in The Arc.
MT

PS, Sorry Ganga, those are not for opening, they are my Whisky "rente" (it sounds much better in German than English!)

[K-Mile]

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The Glenlivet 18 years old
Nose : Also fruity, but more wood notes. Still a hint of freshness, though. Malty, banana
Palate : Very rich, quite some 'deeper' flavors than the 12 and 16. Still that estery flavors, though, but not that tropical fruit.
Finish : Has a nice boost that I like in a finish, but less challanging aroma's than in the younger expressions.
Comment : This one is quite different. Could be my palate, but it has a more 'deeper' rather than 'fresher' flavor. Still like it though, but different.

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[Ian Logan]

Mikey,

Delighted to see that you are enjoying the 1967 and thank you for opening it here.

[K-Mile]

This is a great beverage:

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Glenlivet 33yo 1967 (46%, Original Bottling, Cellar Collection 67-00 sample code 2GC8001 in box) - Nosing glass
Nose : caramel, almonds, vanilla, simple syrup... nice balance
Palate : spice (pepper, thyme), caramel, coating smoothness, almost like a cream liquor,
Finish : slides down very smooth coating along the way, slight dryness in the back of the tongue, finish is medium-long
Comment : This dram is a treat, I believe that it is the best expression of The Livet that I have had.

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Cheers,

That sounds nice. Glad you like it!

I think the 12 and 16 year olds were better than the 18 years old since I like the light freshness that they have. The 18yo is a bit heavier, and at the moment I feel I cannot completely appreciate it.

I will save the 21 years old for another day. I am quite tired, and need to be on my feet early tomorrow morning (it's 1:21 am here).

Enjoy your drams Mikey and Ganga (and MT if you get a chance to pour yourself one), it was a pleasure to be here with you! And Les, who's been lurking in the 'Who is online' section in this topic

Ian, thanks again for being here tonight. It was a real pleasure going through your comments, answers, and insights in this thread

Slainthe! And good night!

[Ian Logan]

K-Mile,

Thanks for dropping in, hope everything goes well with the new house. Goodnight.

[Ian Logan]

Ganga, Mikey,

Some of these guys just cant handle the pace!!!!

[Ian Logan]

Mikey,

Have to be honest here and say I habe not got a clue on this one!!!!!

Ganga,

I was thinking the same thing, looks like a lock in at the bar.

[Ian Logan]

Les,

I see you are browsing, drop in and say hello.....PLEASE!!!!

[Ian Logan]

Dont think I will be around too much longer, its after 1 inthe morning here. If it picks up soon I will stay with it, if not guys thank you for joining in and hopefully we will meet for a real dram when I am next on the west coast.

[Matt2]

Still here ... well back...

I'm just finishing the night with a Nadurra and catching up with the posts...

There was a mention of seafood with the 12, havent tried that yet but I do make a good whisky, cream and lemon thyme source for grilled steaks.

Thanks for all your input Ian, a great night and excellent whiskies. ps.. You are allowed to leave anytime you want

I think this topic is a great masterclass into the Glenlivet, some really interesting notes and comments, got me looking for them now.

[Ian Logan]

Ganga,

When I joined Pernod Ricard in 1997 Aberlour was our key malt and I will always have a soft spot for it.

[Matt2]

[quote="K-Mile

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The Glenlivet 18 years old
Nose : Also fruity, but more wood notes. Still a hint of freshness, though. Malty, banana
Palate : Very rich, quite some 'deeper' flavors than the 12 and 16. Still that estery flavors, though, but not that tropical fruit.
Finish : Has a nice boost that I like in a finish, but less challanging aroma's than in the younger expressions.
Comment : This one is quite different. Could be my palate, but it has a more 'deeper' rather than 'fresher' flavor. Still like it though, but different.

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Hi K, the 18 took me by surprise as well, I see the 12 / 15 as fruit tarts but the 18 is a fruit cake. Works well I think.

[Ian Logan]

Matt,

I dont get a chance to chat directly with the consumers that often beside Whisky Live events so its good to spend time here. The most important thing is that I am enjoying it and having fun.
ganga wants to know when we are doing Aberlour

[Ian Logan]

Try and see if you can find a silver label A'bunadh, it was done for the millenium as was a 2000bt limited edition. This one was a straight 12yo and another step up for A'bunadh whereas the standard vattings are around 8-12yo.

[Matt2]

ganga wants to know when we are doing Aberlour

Sounds good , for me thats a mysterious whisky, never quite got a taste for it. Had trouble with water, too strong or lost the depth.

[Ian Logan]

Matt,

More than happy to help, might need a few weeks to recover from the past couple of weeks!!!!!

[Matt2]

Mikey - Enjoy the 33, you lucky *** and cheers for opening tonight You've got some nice evenings ahead of you with that one, maybe not straight from the bottle, oh go on then!

[Ian Logan]

Folks,

The time has come for me to call it a night. Thank you to all of you for making this so enjoyable over the last couple of weeks.
If any of you have questions regarding any of the Chivas Bros portfolio dont hesitate to send me a PM and I will get back to you as soon as I can.
Enjoy the rest of the evening and thank you again.

Ian

[Matt2]

Thanks again Ian and look forward to seeing you back soon, enjoy the rest of your Friday night, well Saturday morning.

[Matt2]

So what were your favourites?
For me it would be the Nadurra for its lively character, full of candy, then probably the 18 - a winter Glenlivet more warming.

[Muskrat Portage]

So what were your favourites?
For me it would be the Nadurra for its lively character, full of candy, then probably the 18 - a winter Glenlivet more warming.

Gee, I'd have to say the Glenlivet 12 yo seeing as how I live in the Nort' Woods!

Muskrat Portage
(Back from shopping - for pressies.)

[Muskrat Portage]

K-Mile:
Since when did the 12 start coming in a tube? I've only ever seen the square box. Pretty posh my friend.
Muskrat