Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

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Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Cody » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:56 am

Hello everyone,
Great site you have here! So much information I'm in sensory overload. I'm a newbie that would like to find out about other options when it comes to purchasing premium brands in the USA (Washington State). Our local state run liquor stores carry some good options, however I would like to try other rare and special releases. Also, would like to find a better price on some of the products they do carry. I just paid $330.95 for a bottle of Highland Park 25 only to get home and see I could have saved a bunch if I would have done more research. :headbang:

What are some of the better places to shop (online) that deal with the US when it comes to price and special / limited products?

Thanks in advance.

~Cody

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby shulaw05 » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:32 pm

if you go to malt advocate's website and look under their 'specialty retailor' section they have a list of stores worldwide who have a good selection, check it out and see if any are near you.

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Wave » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:04 pm

Welcome to the WMF Cody! It looks as though you live in a shippable state (Washington) so with that in mind here's a few places I shop on-line.

Binny's
Great selection and prices, Chicago, Ill.

D&M Wines & Liquors
Also great selection though prices are a tad on the high side. What's nice about this shop is they have 2 whisky clubs worth looking into. San Francisco, CA

K&L Wine Merchants
Not as huge of a selection compared to the 2 above but have some nice deals from time to time. Redwood City, CA

Wine & Liquor Depot
Good selection and great prices, unfortunately their website is rarely up-to-date. Van Nuys, CA

The Wine Specialists
Good selection and decent prices. Sometimes they'll have malts not available elsewhere. Washington, DC

....and to be a bit more adventurous, 2 other sites I shop from....

Loch Fyne Whiskies
A highly revered landmark among many malt lovers with some of the best prices in Scotland. Inveraray, Scotland

Royal Mile Whiskies
Great selection and prices are comparable to LFW but with faster shipping than the above (usually within 5 business days). London, England/Edinburgh, Scotland


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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Cody » Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:27 am

Great links! That is exactly what I needed.

Thank you!

~Cody

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Aeolus » Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:59 pm

Hi Cody!

Welcome! I'm also new on this forum and live in Washington State. The WSLCB can be tough on some products, but if a group of people get together to split a case (some cases are only 6 bottles), there are ways of getting the LCB to special order things for us.
:o :wink:
As for online retailers, Shoppers Vineyard (New Jersey) has had the best shipping rates in the past. 12 bottle cases (mixed) seem to result in the best per bottle pricing (+/- $4.00 per bottle). Wine & Liquor Depot (Van Nuyes, CA) also has similar shipping rates.

Unfortunately, Binny's told me they won't ship to WA, but maybe that's changed recently. Bev Mo (CA) won't ship to WA, nor will some of the other larger places. I've found that it is best to not only check their website, but to call also. Getting $500 to $1000 worth of liquor caught up in the political / legal mill is not fun or cheap.
:cry: :evil:
Always compare shipping and prices around the web. Sometimes the cheapest bottle will wipe out your savings with shipping charges. It would be nice (and far more cost effective) to combine orders, if a few of us in this state could work that out.

Good luck and let us know what your experiences are. I'm very interested to hear of any discoveries you make.
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Postby Secesh » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:05 pm

You're probably in the same boat as me in regards to having purchases shipped. NH has State stores so they don't allow liquor to be shipped here. The prices are good for what they have, but it is limited. Luckily for me the Boston area is relatively close, with some nice selections.

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Postby Aeolus » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:34 pm

Yes, Secesh, that is one nice thing about small state size on the upper east coast. Potentally better markets are close.
:)
Unfortunately, in the northwest, we were a screaming hotbed of the Prohibitionist movement and now, 75 years after repeal, we are still subject to some very onerous laws (and attitudes). Oregon and Idaho are no different, so we have to go either to Nevada or California. A long, expensive trip.
:evil: :cry:
Hopefully ways around the barriers can be developed.
:mrgreen:

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby bond » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:55 am

Do not know if Park Avenue Liquors has an online shopping option. But I have rarely been disappointed with their selection of malt whiskies. Great store to visit if you are travelling to New York.

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Postby randall fairbrook » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:03 am

look into hi-time wines in costa mesa....decent selection though i am not sure about their shipping...

http://www.hitimewine.net/

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Secesh » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:13 pm

Aeolus wrote:Yes, Secesh, that is one nice thing about small state size on the upper east coast. Potentally better markets are close.
:)
Unfortunately, in the northwest, we were a screaming hotbed of the Prohibitionist movement and now, 75 years after repeal, we are still subject to some very onerous laws (and attitudes). Oregon and Idaho are no different, so we have to go either to Nevada or California. A long, expensive trip.
:evil: :cry:
Hopefully ways around the barriers can be developed.
:mrgreen:


Just curious, are high-end restaurants in your area restricted to what is only available at your state stores? I don't recall seeing anything special in restaurants around here, but NH doesn't exactly have any cities near the size of Seattle.

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Bulkington » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:17 pm

Park Ave does have a website:

http://www.parkaveliquor.com/

Also in NY there's Astor Wine:

http://www.astorwines.com/Default.aspx?c=1

And Beekman's:

http://www.beekmanliquors.com/

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Bulkington » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:42 pm

"Just curious, are high-end restaurants in your area restricted to what is only available at your state stores?"

I'm from Washington State and my mother used to work closely with the state liquor board, and as she understands it restaurants have to go to the state wholesalers to pick up their product. Whether they can get the state to acquire new expressions or not she isn't sure, but basically they're as limited as any private citizen by what the state offers.

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Postby LeoDLion » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:34 pm

I consider myself lucky because our local liquor store Specs have some special rare but expensive single malt whiskies. And they are a chain store here in Houston, we got two in our neighborhood.

Now you travel north to Dallas and its different. The prices are sooo high and the selection terrible. They dont have anything like Specs.

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Aeolus » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:31 am

Secesh wrote:

"Just curious, are high-end restaurants in your area restricted to what is only available at your state stores?"

The WSLCB will usually (not ALWAYS) special order a product if you buy at least a case. The ONE LCB Store that deals with hotels and restraunts (this store is closed to the general public) is more flexible in this regard since they are dealing with repeat, high volume customers.

The best bar we have found so far is St. Andrews (discussed on another thread in this forum). It is located in a suburb and is very low key and casual (a neighborhood pub, run by two Scottish guys, I think). It has over a 100 SMs which is probably a record for this state. One of the owners told me that they have collected them a case or two at a time. They can't always replace them when they run out, so you takes your chances.

The only other places with any kind of a selection (usually VERY limited and VERY EXPENSIVE) is the downtown Seattle and Bellevue scene. This is usually populated with a lot of "conspicious consumption". You will see people "shooting" Louis XIII Cognac, not because they enjoy it, but to show how little money means to them. Embarassing.
:oops:
So the opportunities for exploring SMs is limited. Liquor stores in other states sometimes will and sometimes won't ship to this state.
:headbang:
Just makes it more "challenging" I guess.
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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Knolly » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:06 am

Great thread!

Anyone live in Phoenix AZ?

I'm going to be going to Las Vegas and Phoenix over the next couple of weeks.

While in LV, I typically shop at one of the better Lee's stores - decent prices and selection, but specialty bottles are pretty uncommon (although it's pretty good for tequila!). Are there any other good whisky shops in Las Vegas?

What about Phoenix - it's been a few years since I've been there. Anywhere good to go to shop for SMW?

Thanks and cheers!

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Bulkington » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:40 pm

Hey Aeolus, where's St. Andrew's located? Or could you point me to the thread in which it's mentioned? I'll be back in Western Washington this Spring or Summer and may try paying it a visit.

I guess there's always google....

For what it's worth, Stanley and Seafort's, I think, has the best single malt selection in Tacoma.

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Aeolus » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:50 pm

Bulkington wrote:Hey Aeolus, where's St. Andrew's located? Or could you point me to the thread in which it's mentioned? I'll be back in Western Washington this Spring or Summer and may try paying it a visit.

I guess there's always google....

For what it's worth, Stanley and Seafort's, I think, has the best single malt selection in Tacoma.


Hi, Bulkington!

St Andrews is just north of Seattle near Greenlake at 74th and Aurora. It shares a parking lot with the PCC Co-op. Parking can be tight in the area.

They have a website you can google and a map but no listing (online) of current SMSs.
:(
Send us a PM if you want. We are ALWAYS looking for an excuse to share a dram.....
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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby falvarez » Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:08 am

Those links all lead to pretty expensive places.

http://www.crownwineandspirits.com

This is where I usually buy my stuff; I don't know of anything cheaper and it has a pretty great selection. It's in Florida, though.

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Re: Where do people go in the US to purchase premium scotch?

Postby Cody » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:22 am

FYI for anyone who is in Washington State.... the state run liquor stores just got in some of the Distillers Editions. The Lagavulin and Oban were at my local store and nearly sold out. Only 2 bottles left of each in the Vancouver area. I heard the Seattle area has a bunch of bottles. I'm going to go open the Lagavulin Distillers Edition right now!


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