Last year i bought a collectors bottle Brora OB 24 YO 1977-2001 56,1% RMS bott.5881 without box from a well-known Italian online reseller .. by close examination (and with "special" light) i was stunned by the stains on the bottle glass (see pictures).. it looked very peculiar and i suspected forgery was in play .. i did some research and the farthest i get was that the bottle originally came from the well-known MetroBar in Milan .. does anyone has an explanation for these marks ??
However, you now confirm that the areas lie beneath the surface of the glass. Strange indeed!
I also note that there are obvious diagional scratch marks to the right of the lower portion of the label.
All of these factors raise a smidgen of doubt in my mind concerning the bottle's authenticity. I'm not saying that it has been subject to tampering, but am merely stating a slight degree of concern.
Therefore, it's worth checking other parameters of the bottle in question:
1. Is everything else (proper unmarked cork stopper with tan-coloured wooden top as well as silvery foil capsule with subtle horizontal circumferential striations and no punt - i.e. indentation - on the bottom of the bottle) in order?
2. Fill level. I would be a little wary if the fill level in a bottle of this age reaches much higher than mid-neck level, as that could possibly indicate refilling.
Other than that, the very best way to discern authenticity might be to open the whisky and have a go at the contents.
Best of luck.
The level is indeed worrying high .. the stopper looks ok .. the pictures speak for themselves .. what do you think ?
The Third Dram wrote:...the very best way to discern authenticity might be to open the whisky and have a go at the contents...
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The fill level is a bit misleading as mine are quite low in as much as lower neck etc but I have had other Rare Malts bottles from other distilleries that have remained high.
What I have noticed is that the silver foil on the capsule appears to either be slightly dirty or a liittle pock marked (for want of a better phrase), the silver sheen is not there the silver looks dull etc. That said I suppose over various bottle runs the quality could change.
It is not an exact science to be fair and I am no expert.
Like you I have also bought bottles from Italian sellers, for me you need to find one you know you can trust and stick with them. That applies to whatever country they come from.
Unfortunately Italy had alot of bad press when it came to fake bottles especially on ebay etc.
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