What are your favorite Single Malts under Seventeen Yrs old?

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What are your favorite Single Malts under Seventeen Yrs old?

Postby PhilberyLeroy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:19 am

There are some great drams in the 10-16 yr old category that are still "affordable."

What are your favorites?

I have to go sip my collection to refresh my memory about my faves. Be back in a few days. . . .

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Postby posterboy » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:03 pm

I'm not sure what "affordable" is to you (it's all relative), but I will suggest Dalmore 12, Aberlour 10, Bruichladdich 15 (among my favorites, but more expernsive than that other 2 by far) and, the best suggestion I can give you, Bunnahabhain 12. It is a wonderful islay malt, wiith a bit of brine and no peatiness. It's among my favorites of any age. It runs about US$38 or so a bottle.

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Postby andrewfenton » Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:41 am

For affordables, there can only be one contender: the mighty Ardbeg 10. It's nearly the cheapest single malt out there (less than £20 in supermarkets), yet is top notch.

It also has the rather nice side effect that it doesn't lose any taste in the bottle, even when under 1/3 left - I recently returned to one that must have been at that level for 8 months or more, and it tastes even better than before.

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Postby Admiral » Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:21 am

Agree with Ardbeg 10, and would also offer the humble Glenlivet 12yo.

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Postby bamber » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:57 am

Best value for taste in order:

Ardbeg 10YO
Safeway Islay (it's actually a vatted malt)
Aberlour 10YO
Longmorn 15YO
Bowmore Legend
Glenlivet 18YO (can get it for £25)

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Postby Tom » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:47 pm

Laphroaig 15, Laphroaig CS, Balvenie 12, Macallan 12, Glenfarclas 15, Tullibardine 15 Hart brothers, Ardbeg 10, Lagavulin 16, Glenfiddich Solera, Glenrothes 1989, Aberlour a'bunadh, Ben Nevis 10, Caol ila 14 Medoc Finish, glenmorangie Sherry & Port finish, Glendronach 15, Glenlivet 12 French oak,
from the top of my head

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Postby Admiral » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:44 am

Tom,

I agree with your list from a flavour and quality point of view, but I would suggest that (in my market at least), many of those are significantly more expensive than other malts they compete against.

If we are to stick to the original post's suggestion of what is "affordable", I think some from your list probably wouldn't qualify.

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Postby islayjunkie » Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:15 am

Clynelish 14yo OB for sure.

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Postby Mr Fjeld » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:04 am

Because I'm relatively new to whisky I can only mention two which I can honestly say taste very good - and are good value for money:
Ardbeg 10 (my favourite) and Laphroaig 10 CS.

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Postby Tom » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:57 pm

all of these in my list cost less then 50 Euro. wich i think is the border of affordable and the typical price for a "good" whisky. Over 50 Euro for a whisky means your looking for quality over price. Though i know for example in australia you must pay much more for the glenmorangies. I dont know all the prices for all the countrys so i based the list to my own experience.

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Postby Admiral » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:54 pm

No problem Tom, we're all in different markets! :)

50 Euros equates to about $83 Australian dollars.

The majority of regular malts in the 10 to 15 year range retail for between $50 and $75, so $83 (50 Euros) would certainly stand outside what the Australian market considers regular or affordable.

(This is based purely on comparison of course, and is subjective based entirely on the purchaser. Afterall, $83 might seem horribly expensive to one person, and small change to another person.)

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Postby angus » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:04 pm

MORTLACH 16 YO (Flora@Fauna range). Shure the best non cask strength whisky I`ve tasted!!!

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Postby hpulley » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:24 pm

With $75 as the cutoff (in local currency), favorites would be, in order: Ardbeg 10yo, Lagavulin 12yo CS (it is $75 CND$ here, crazy the prices in the USA on that one), Laphroaig 10yo, Bunnahabhain 12yo. That's it, all Islays, believe it or not!

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Postby Crispy Critter » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:29 am

hpulley wrote:Lagavulin 12yo CS (it is $75 CND$ here, crazy the prices in the USA on that one)


Whoa! It might be worth my while to make a side trip across the border next time I visit my sister. Anyone know if the LCBO in Sarnia would have it in stock, or would Windsor be a better choice?

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Postby islayjunkie » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:18 am

Lavavulin 12yo CS is around $170.00 USD (excluding tax) in my State... I am very thankful that the Internet supplies plenty of Laga 12yo for around $100.00 USD (including shipping).

The Internet presents many opportunities ;)

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Postby hpulley » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:06 pm

Crispy Critter wrote:
hpulley wrote:Lagavulin 12yo CS (it is $75 CND$ here, crazy the prices in the USA on that one)


Whoa! It might be worth my while to make a side trip across the border next time I visit my sister. Anyone know if the LCBO in Sarnia would have it in stock, or would Windsor be a better choice?


I don't see any in the Sarnia or Windsor stores. There isn't much left (23 bottles in the province) so your best bet would be to have your sister order some to her local store for you. It is stock #602078.

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Postby Crispy Critter » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:01 am

Actually, she lives in Michigan, but not outrageously far from the border. Oh well. Fortunately, there's a store near her that has (for Michigan especially) a good selection of unusual malts.

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Postby hpulley » Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:01 pm

You still might be able to order them to the closest store to the border. I'm just not sure what that store is. They have postal code lookups for nearest stores and that would be your best bet.

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Postby Frodo » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:17 am

islayjunkie wrote:Lavavulin 12yo CS is around $170.00 USD (excluding tax) in my State... I am very thankful that the Internet supplies plenty of Laga 12yo for around $100.00 USD (including shipping).

The Internet presents many opportunities ;)


The LCBO does too as laga 12 can be had for C$75 a bottle... :D :D

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Postby islayjunkie » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:24 am

Which puts my cost at around $15.00 USD higher than the LCBO (including shipping)... not to bad.

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Postby pam b » Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:37 pm

My favourites under 17:

lagavulin 16 year
rosebank 8 yr
bunnahabhain 12 yr
clynelish 14 yr.

just my personal favs

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Postby higgins » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:17 am

Isle of Jura - Superstition(not sure of age, but doesn't taste old), and Highland Park 12 - both around $40US.

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Postby Admiral » Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:54 am

I understand Superstition to be a vatting of reasonably young Jura (i.e. 3 to 5 years) with older Jura, say, 10 to 12 years.

And I agree....it's a great dram. :)

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Postby Paul A Jellis » Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:27 pm

Most of the whiskies I drink are under 17yrs, I prefer them younger. Some of my favourites are:

Caol Ila 13yr Signatory
Clynelish 14yr
Dalmore 12yr
Bruichladdich 10yr, 14yr, and 15yr
Laphroaig 10yr and Cask Strength 10yr
Longmorn 15yr
Mortlach 13yr
Straithisla 12yr
Ardbeg 10yr and Very Young 6yr

and many more . . . . but these are the ones that are nearly always in the cabinet.

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Postby Admiral » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:41 pm

Nothing wrong with that list at all, Paul.

In fact, I think you've picked out some real gems, particularly since they're all under 15 years.

Although, I have to say the Laddie 10 & 15 don't excite me that much.....they're probably nice whiskies per se, but they're very, very expensive down here, and I don't think they have enough flavour or complexity to justify the local price tag. I've yet to try the 14yo though. How does it differ?

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Postby Paul A Jellis » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:37 pm

The 14yr may be better known as the Links bottlings, it doesn't differ a great deal from the 10yr old, but I find it softer and a touch more full bodied, whilst still being light and refreshing. Does that make sense? Also I was given a bottle, so my first botle was free.

I started drinking the younger whiskies because of the cost of older whiskies, but I know find I prefer them. But, we could also ask when does a young whisky stop being a young whisky and is there such a thing as a middle-aged whisky?

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Postby philbert » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:11 am

Yikes,
I don't know what happened since I first started this thread, but there was a certain amount of consolidation going on in my whiskey pantry.

All the same I thank you and have had fun discovering some of the selections here.

Of these, there are of course many, many left to try from among the slections recommended here (PS mea culpa I should have given a definition of affordable, but I'm glad it was vague, because the selections have more scope -- but I'd have probably said up to around $50 for everyday staples . . .with an upper ceiling of $75 for occasional treats like Talisker 18 or Lagavulin 16.

But of the ones I have sampled so far that were not already perhaps in my collection, (and some which were already,) the standouts have been:

Clynelish 14 (an almost permanent resident)
Caol Ila 12

Unfortunately for reasons which defy explanation Oban 14 gives me a headache -- even after a mere ounce. So I am glad for Clynelish 14, which shares an affinity with Oban, in some ways, but is perhaps more intriguingly complex in others, though possibly slightly less "glowing."

Talisker 12 and 18 have been frequent visitors. A recent expression of Glendronach 15 was less inviting than a past bottle, which had previously been a firm favorite, ditto Highland Park 12. While the new-shape bottle of Macallan 12 seems to contain a less pedestrian, or even much more interesting offering than last year.

Scapa 14 has been around a few times, and while solid, seems best suited as an occasional visitor.

I'm kinda ready for a Bruichladdich again after a couple of years, and wondering if the 15 warrants the extra layout over the 10.

And I gotta try that Bunnhabhain. That is definitely next on the list -- unless I stuble across a long lost Royal Lochnagar.

Thanks again.

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Postby Pascal » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:46 am

hpulley wrote:Lagavulin 12yo CS (it is $75 CND$ here, crazy the prices in the USA on that one)

:shock: That's a better deal the the 16 I'm having right now (bought in Quebec). Geez, I'm gonna take the time to stop by the LCBO on King Edward / Rideau on my next trip to Ottawa!

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Postby Crispy Critter » Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:54 am

Well, Ardbeg 10 has jumped in price here ($45 is the cheapest I can find it now). Fortunately, I bunkered a bunch of bottles at $30.

Right now, I'd consider Aberlour 10 to be one of the top bang-for-the-buck single malts at about $32 or so.

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Postby Paul A Jellis » Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:48 am

Philbert

I'm pleased to see Clynelish at the top of your list, i'ts been one of my must-haves for a long time. If you like the 14yr you might like to try the 17yr Signatory cask strength. It hits all the right buttons! It's still fruity like the 14yr but more like sun-dried fruits washed in honey with that wonderful peaty after taste.

Royal Lochnagar is one of favorite winter drams, when it's cold and wet outside there's nothing better! Unless someone knows something better?????

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Postby Badmonkey » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:58 pm

PhilberyLeroy,

Prices in Alberta tend to be lower than in other Canadian provinces, but if we set $50 as the upper limit of affordability and try to cover some different styles of malt, I would probably pick the following:

Balvenie Double Wood Finish
Highland Park 12
Auchentoshan 10
Laphroaig 10 CS (a bit hard to find around here, though)

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Postby Froagi » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:18 am

Wow reading these figures for the Islay's I love the best have made me feel a whole lot better about scotch prices in Washington State. the lagavulin 16 YO is mid sixties here/750ml and Uigeadail is under $80 and my current favorite. Laphroaig 10 YO is under $50 and in Oregon, 25 miles below me Laphroaig 15 YO is $61 a bottle. only problem is the selection totals only 68 brand/varieties between the two states. I saw more than that available in Phoenix last month in one store. Cheers.


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