This is Bob,
from the Bob & Jill team
I tasted the first edition 3D "Peat Proposal" some time ago and cannot give you an accurate opinion or description other than the fact that I liked it and that the smoke has another character than the kildaltons. I think I read somewhere here on the forums that some of the malted barley was sourced from Jura? I think it's worth buying but it's very different to your 10yo which I happen to like too!
We have spoken about the 3D at some length elsewhere on the forums, but sorry, I can't remember which discussion it was in. However, I do recall someone saying that when they tried it they were not too happy. It was quite harsh and not so well balanced or rounded. After leaving it (opened) for some weeks / months, they revisited it and found it had changed - mellowing and becoming a much more pleasant dram.
As for my personal view: I really like this dram. Yes it is very pleasantly peaty, but not overpowering. It certainly doesn't have the kick or oooomph of Ardbeg 10 or Laphroaig 10.
The bottles are individually numbered and the differences within the number ranges are surprising. I found that the early numbers, certainly below 4,000 were the best! By "best" I mean smoother, rounded, better balanced and not quite so harsh. The latter numbers still had a wonderful flavour, but I found them to be a little more fiery and what I call harsh.
However, these were still eminently drinkable and I would recommend them.
The second version, Moine Mhor, is a cask strength version and also quite peaty, but personally I didn't enjoy this as much as the 3D.
Not quite so peaty, but an excellent dram and also quite different from other Laddies that I know, is the WMDII - Yellow Submarine.
Not such a peaty dram, but this is one of my favourites at the moment.
I hope this helps,
The first version "peat proposal" was quite nice, with a nice balance between the unpeated and peated bruichladdich. On the second version, the Moine Mhor is the amount of very young and very peated Octomore. Personally, I find the second version less balanced than the first version. Also, the peat is massive and quite blunt.
I like peated whiskies, but not then they are so rough and brutal.
MrFjeld wrote:I think I read somewhere here on the forums that some of the malted barley was sourced from Jura?
The malt was sourced from PE Maltings, and was destined for Bowmore, thereby having a phenol level of 25ppm. The distillery men from Jura were using it to make a small production run at Bruichladdich, which at the time (1998) was mothballed.
WhiskyHammer wrote:We have spoken about the 3D at some length elsewhere on the forums, but sorry, I can't remember which discussion it was in
I remember too, but can't find it either. The search function wasn't at much help in this case.
But anyway - I find it a nice malt too
The malts used for 3D were:
2001 Port Charlotte 40ppm
1998 Bruichladdich 25ppm
1989 Bruichladdich <5ppm
In the Moine Mhor the ingredients differ, since the 1998 25ppm is replaced by new Bruichladdich 2001 10ppm* and the amount of Port Charlotte is likely to be a bit higher.
[*:The first production of the new owners were peated at 10ppm, but later reduced to around 3ppm.]
I don't think it contains any Octomore though, but I might be wrong
MrTattieHeed wrote:The second 3D, Moine Mhor, comprised of '91 and '94 Bruichladdich and four-year-old Port Charlotte.
This is likely to be information from "The Man" himself, since it's from MrT's report of one of Jim's tastings.
Which malts in Bruichladdich 3D second edition Moine Mhor
http://www.whiskymag.com/forum/viewtopi ... ght=#41536
http://www.oddbins.com/products/product ... code=32355
Bruichladdich 3D 'Moine Mhor'
Product Code : 32355
This 2nd edition of the hugely successful 3D Peat Proposal is again a vatting of lightly peated 1989 spirit, medium peated 1998 spirit but has a higher proportion of the heavily peated spirit from 2001 that has a ppm of 40 hence 'Moine Mhor' - The Big Peat! (ODDBINS EXCLUSIVE)
Tasting Notes : It's a blast! Hot, sweet peat flies right over the palate and goes straight to the heart. Wow! Only when the fire dies a little do the other Laddie characteristics appear and soothe the senses. The fruity zesty honey marine keynotes have to be at their very best to contain the new kid on the block.
Producer : Bruichladdich
Method of Production : Barrels were selected from the years 1989, 1998 and 2001 with the spirit having been born of barley peated at 3ppm, 25ppm and 40ppm. The casks used were refill Sherry butts, refill Bourbon hogsheads and fresh Bourbon barrels; and they had been stored in two separate warehouses at the distillery and another at Port Charlotte. Once vatted together the whisky was bottled at 50% alcohol (in the distillery with Islay spring water) without chill filtration or the addition of caramel.
In short: According Oddbins they used exactly same malts as in 3D - 1st edition, but using higher amount of Port Charlotte.
So - who are we to trust on this
Admiral wrote:I read somewhere, (sorry can't remember where now) that the Moine Mhor actually did have Octomore in it!
Well...no matter what the ingredients, the important question is "Is it a good dram".
The answer is, "Yes".
I'm not so sure...but I'm open to persuasion.
My note quoted above--"'91 and '94 Bruichladdich and four-year-old Port Charlotte"--was taken direct from McEwan's lips, so if it's incorrect, it's his error.
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