What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

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What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby Lawrence » Sun Nov 21, 2004 4:49 am

If you could choose any six malts to replace the Classic Malts (Glenkinchie, Dalwhinnie, Cragganmore, Oban, Talisker and Lagavulin) and still represent those six regions what would those six malts be?

And for fun we'll pretend that Deagio has a distillery in Campletown so include a malt from that region also.

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Postby Frodo » Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:23 am

Ardbeg - Islay
Ledaig - Island :)
Springbank - Campbeltown
Glenfiddich - Speyside
Rosebank - Lowland
Highland Park - North Highlands
???? - Highlands

You can tell I'm not a big fan of the Mortlach/Macallan style, but I do like it once in a while. I just don't think they represent the style of the region. And 'fiddich can encompass many styles depending on how much it's aged. It wouldn't be my first choice for a speyside dram, but it represents the area well I think.

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Postby lucabeer » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:04 am

Islay: Ardbeg (with Caol Ila as a runner up)
Island: Highland Park
Campbeltown: Springbank
Speyside: Macallan (with Aberlour as a runner up)
Lowland: Rosebank
"Coastal" Highland (to replace Oban): Clynelish
HIghlands... ?

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Postby Tom » Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:58 pm

Laphroaig - Islay
Auchentoshan three wood - lowlands
Isle Of Jura - islands
Longrow - Campbeltown
Glenmorangie - highlands
Macallan - Speyside
Glengoyne - West highlands (there are only 3 distillerys here so what choice do we got)

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Postby SpiritofShetland » Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:53 pm

The replacements as I see them (only Diageo-owned distilleries):
Speyside: Linkwood
Dufftown: Mortlach
Lowland: Rosebank
Northern Highlands: Clyenlish
Southern Highlands: Blair Athol
Islands: Talisker
Islay: Lagavulin (a keeper)

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Postby Admiral » Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:11 pm

This is a great question, Lawrence! :)

But it poses some real headaches.....

Do we choose our personal favourite malts from each region?

Or do we list malts that we may not even actually enjoy, but we admit that they do best represent the region?

And once we've chosen a distillery, which age or expression do we select? :)

And - most importantly of all - do we only consider the distilleries owned by Diageo?

Originally, I was inclined to agree with Arve - since the "Classic Malts" are entirely a Diageo affair, I feel we are obliged to only select replacements from within the Diageo portfolio.

However, it must be noted that the Classic Malts do not actually perfectly represent the "official" regions. The "locations" that are identified on the Classic Malts tasting pack are Islands, West Highlands, Lowlands, Highlands, Islay, and Speyside.

But this leaves me with a problem since Talisker is the only Diageo distillery in the Islands category, so I therefore don't have an alternative to choose from. And as you've already pointed out, Campbelltown isn't even represented.

With this in mind, I'll assume that any distillery is fair game, and I'll also ignore the Classic Malts' faux regions and actually go by the real regions:

Islands: Highland Park
Highlands: Clynelish
Speyside: Macallan
Islay: Lagavulin (Long live the king!)
Lowlands: Glenkinchie (Auchentoshan ain't right yet!)
Campbelltown: Springbank.

(I guess if two of the original six remain, Diageo did a pretty good job in the first place! :D )

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Postby Lawrence » Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:24 pm

These are great answers and for Admirals excellent point I was asking about all distilleries and not just those owned by Deagio.

Please note that I said malt from Campletown so it gave you a wider choice.

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Postby Lawrence » Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:08 pm

I expanded my list a bit, there's so many that it became difficult to choose :?

Orkney: Scapa
Northern: Clynelish
The Northern Highlands: Balblair
Speyside: Aberlour
The Eastern Highlands: Glen Garioch
Perthshire: Glengoyne
Western & Isles: Ben Nevis (Western) Isle Arran Distillery (Isles)
Lowlands: St. Magdalene
Campeltown: Glen Scotia
Islay: Laphroaig

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Postby Deactivated Member » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:32 pm

The Six Classic malts are changing slowly in to the Classic Malts. I think by now the majority will know the Six Classics and it's a past section, so time for a refreshment in the range. But since your asking what it would look like, if you're have the chance to change them I would do the following:

Still using Diageo because of the extensive range they have.

Lowlands: Rosebank (just put this distillery back in business)
Highlands: Dalwhinnie (as ever lasting)
Speyside: Glen Elgin (a true hidden gem)
Highlands(Coastal Region): Clynelish (for its nice robust flavor)
Islands: Talisker (still going strong)
Islay: Caol Ila (a clean and distinctive Islay malt)


That's what I would do, I think.


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Postby richard » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:59 pm

my choice

lowlands bladnoch glenkichies poor

islay ardbeg

campbeltown springbank

speyside longmorn glen elgin

highlands glenturret

islands talisker

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Postby Admiral » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:48 am

Lawrence,

Splitting regions into "Northern" and "Northern Highlands" is a bit extravagant, isn't it? :D Balblair & Clynelish are practically next door neighbours!!

:wink: Admiral

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Postby Lawrence » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:56 am

Iknow, I know but I added an extra whisky to my list and that's a good thing! :D

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Postby Admiral » Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:29 pm

Incidentally, given the choice between a Balblair and a Clynelish, I'll take the Clynelish anyday.

Balblair is hardly "classic", IMHO. :)

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Postby Lawrence » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:36 pm

No whisky was "classic" before the classic malts marketing campaign one could argue......

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Postby Admiral » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:52 pm

Since the Classic Malts were launched several years before my passion for whisky grew, I guess I'm not really in a position to argue on that one!! :D :wink:

Cheers,
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Postby Laphroaig » Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:25 am

Islay - Caol Ila

Highland - Clynelish,

Island - Highland Park, Ledaig

Speyside - Balvanie, or Longmorn, or Mortlach

Lowland - Rosebank

Campbeltown - Longrow

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Postby bond » Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:25 am

I would certainly add Balvenie to the list. I, however prefer a honey/heather palate as a post-dinner dram and would have possibly knocked off Dalwinnhie to accomodate Balvenie.

Too bad, the way Diageo defines "region" I can't substitute the two and Balvenie is probably not representative of a Speyside whisky.

No way out of my dilemma I guess.

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby randall fairbrook » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:06 am

off topic kinda but i just got a nice present from classic malts...a seasonal calendar with pictures of food and islay scenes etc..and text about recipes and appropriate malts for this and that plus a fold out picture of their whisky notes..which was more smokey..fruity..etc...it was a nice surprise....

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby les taylor » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:39 am

It is interesting looking back in time. The Classic Malts are not as they were then in 2004. Also some of our forum members we sadly have not seen here for some time. It makes you wonder if they are okay or what happened to them.

Here's a macabre thought. Say you got run over by a bus tomorrow. Have you left it in your will that you wanted the whisky mag forum to know what happened. Or would you just dissappear like the early morning mist?

:o

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby woodhill » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:43 am

Perhaps we should carry a card to that effect with our log in details in our wallets (next to the Organ Donor card) :o

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby bond » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:26 am

I have a friend who knows how fond i am of the forum... hopefully, he will carry out the important task of informing the fraternity

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby peergynt323 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:11 pm

Classic Malts (as I understand the definition of the word classic)

Speyside: Macallan
Islay: Bowmore
Campbeltown: Springbank
Highlands: Glenmorangie
Lowlands: St. Magdalene
Islands: Highland Park

I was going to do a my personal favorites list, but it looks a lot like that one. I'd replace Bowmore with Bruichladdich and maybe Glenmorangie with Clynelish/Brora....Macallan and Glenmorangie are in the same boat for me--great whisky, too expensive.

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby Bulkington » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:49 pm

I can't play. I've still never tried a lowlander.

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby TheLaddie » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:38 am

les taylor wrote:Here's a macabre thought. Say you got run over by a bus tomorrow. Have you left it in your will that you wanted the whisky mag forum to know what happened.


What? And have you lot fighting over my collection before I was cold... :dead:

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby les taylor » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:06 am

TheLaddie wrote:
les taylor wrote:Here's a macabre thought. Say you got run over by a bus tomorrow. Have you left it in your will that you wanted the whisky mag forum to know what happened.


What? And have you lot fighting over my collection before I was cold... :dead:


Laddie finding your stash in Bawtry would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Have no fears.

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby TheLaddie » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:09 am

The problem with this question is that, by adding to the Classic Malts range recently Diageo have left us relatively little to play with.

Diageo's active distilleries that are not currently part of the Classic Malts range:

Lowland:
None

Highland:
Blair Athol

Speyside:
Auchroisk
Benrinnes
Dailuaine
Dufftown
Glen Spey
Glendullan
Glenlossie
Inchgower
Linkwood
Mannochmore
Mortlach
Strathmill

Campbelltown:
None

Islands:
None

Islay:
None

So chaps. I'm afraid to say there ain't a lot of names on that list that get my juices flowing.

Maybe if Diageo were to launch a new "Decidedly Average Speysides" range...

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby TheLaddie » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:13 am

les taylor wrote:
TheLaddie wrote:
les taylor wrote:Here's a macabre thought. Say you got run over by a bus tomorrow. Have you left it in your will that you wanted the whisky mag forum to know what happened.


What? And have you lot fighting over my collection before I was cold... :dead:


Laddie finding your stash in Bawtry would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Have no fears.

:)


Good. Let it be known I wish for my body to be soaked in my entire bottle of Arbeg Mor to make my cremation a little more interesting for spectators. :angel:

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby les taylor » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:17 am

I want to be buried inside mine. :wink:

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby Les Paul » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:04 pm

There is no replacement for Lagavulin. Simple as that.

For the naysayers, I feel you all are sliding to the dark side of the Force. It's quicker, more seductive. Is it more powerful? Possibly......but short term only with a lot of sacrifice. You'll eventually become a full-blown Sith and you'll turn to killing and manipulating everything in sight. The key to beating the dark side is compassion.

That compassion is the Lagavulin distillery. Search your feelings, you will know it to be true.










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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby woodhill » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:15 pm

Les Paul wrote:There is no replacement for Lagavulin. Simple as that.

For the naysayers, I feel you all are sliding to the dark side of the Force. It's quicker, more seductive. Is it more powerful? Possibly......but short term only with a lot of sacrifice. You'll eventually become a full-blown Sith and you'll turn to killing and manipulating everything in sight. The key to beating the dark side is compassion.

That compassion is the Lagavulin distillery. Search your feelings, you will know it to be true.










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Every Malt is Classsic (except for the usual suspects)

Even Loch Dhu is Classic in its awfullness :x

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby Les Paul » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:33 pm

woodhill wrote:
Les Paul wrote:There is no replacement for Lagavulin. Simple as that.

For the naysayers, I feel you all are sliding to the dark side of the Force. It's quicker, more seductive. Is it more powerful? Possibly......but short term only with a lot of sacrifice. You'll eventually become a full-blown Sith and you'll turn to killing and manipulating everything in sight. The key to beating the dark side is compassion.

That compassion is the Lagavulin distillery. Search your feelings, you will know it to be true.










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:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:



Every Malt is Classsic (except for the usual suspects)

Even Loch Dhu is Classic in its awfullness :x


I disagree. Not every malt is classic. Lagavulin is classic. It's true power harnessed inside one magic distillery. It's like walking on a path in the forrest on a sunny day ....all the power of the Force available to use at your convenience. That's what Lagavulin is.

Yeah I love single malt scotch...but Glenfiddich 12 or Glenmo 10 just isn't classic to me.

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby Di Blasi » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:59 pm

Great thread Lawrence, I frequently think of what my regions lineup would be...
Islay= Ardbeg Ten
Island= Highland Park 18y
Lowland= Bladnoch 12y Flora and Fauna
Highland= Glengoyne
Speyside= Longmorn 15y

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby Reggaeblues » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:33 pm

Much as I LURVE Ardbeg 10, and get through many more bottles than Lagavulin, "Lagavulin" , I agree, is an absolute classic and should stay in the lineup, as should Talisker.

the rest you could play with, for sure...

Bladnoch would be my Lowlander...I feel even Auchentoshan is more "classic" than 'kinchie...I guess one has to take availability into account and Bladnoich seems quite rare.

I guess Dalwhinnie is a classic of its type.

Harder to choose a Speysider as there are so many...and do you go for the "classically sherried" - Mac/aberlour/Glenfarclas...or the unsherried brands? To me, Cragganmore isn't exactly a classic. Balvenie maybe. In terms of respect and worldwide branding, Glenfiddich is a classic, so I reckon the 15 might qualify.

Not so sure about Oban, or what I'd replace it with...

Of course, they now have 2 of everything in the lineup, tho' this thread was started when there were only six...

Are we still playing for six??

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Re: What would be your choice for replacement Classic Malts?

Postby Danny » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:22 am

My choices would be:

Islands: Highland Park
Highlands: Clynelish
Speyside: Macallan
Islay: Caol Ila
Lowlands: Glenkinchie
Campbelltown: Springbank.


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