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A newbie needs recommendations

Postby MrAndySais » Sun Mar 10, 2002 1:42 pm

Hi all,
I am a newbie to this forum and to the wonderful world of Single Malt Whiskys.
Please excuse my bad English .. I am from Munich, Germany. Image

I started collecting/drinking Whisky in October/November 2001 and have acquired about 60 bottles so far.

I wanted to have a big spectrum of Whisky, so I tried to get my hands of the youngest Whisky of the well-known distillers. Unfortunately I have bought some bottles that were less pleasing.
Now I want to go a step further and buy older whiskys or different editions from my favourite brands. But since that will be a little bit more costly, I would appreciate some recommendations.
Here are some of my favourite brands and what I have from them:
Ardbeg: I only have the 10-y.-o. and a Murray & David Edition (1991)which I don´t like that much. I have tried the 17-y.o. once but was a little bit disappointed. Any other vintages that are as overwhelming as the 10-y.o.?

Bowmore: I have everything from the normals range (Legends, 12-21-y.o., Darkest, Surf) and Dusk. Tried Dawn once but was disappointed. Are Claret, Surf and the old ones worth getting?

Macallen: I really like Sherry-Whiskys. I prefer the 12-y.o. over the 18-y.o. Anything that can be compared to Macallen? Oh, I have Glendronach 15-y.o.

Glenmorangie: I like the Madeira Wood and the Port finish a lot, but I am not a big fan of the normal Glenmorangie. Should I go for Sherry Wood and Fino Wood?

My favourite Caol Ila is from Dun Bheagan. I like the smokey, bacon-like taste a lot. I got another Caol Ila (the Single Single Malt Collection) on Ebay and was simply shocked how different tastes could be. That Caol Ila tastes watery and can´t even be compared to Dun Bhegan´s .Any other versions that have that bacon flavour which I like so much?

Okay, that was enough for a start. I appreciate each comment and recommendations on brands I haven´t mentioned.

Greetings from Munich,

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Postby BruceCrichton » Mon Mar 11, 2002 7:10 pm

Macallan comparables?

In terms of having had whiskies which are heavily sherried, good whiskies include:

Dailuaine, Aberlour, Blair Athol, Mortlach and Pittyvaich stand out.

Glendronach 12 is excellent also.

Glenmorangie? If you can get it, then go for the 12 year old millenium malt. It is still fairly available in Britain. Fiona Murdoch at www.dufftown.co.uk has some if you can't get it anywhere else. It beats the others hands down. It's sweeter than 10 yr old and has a slightly metallic taste.

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Postby Steve » Mon Mar 11, 2002 9:29 pm

Of Ardbeg, the 1975 vintage was spectacularly good, but more rounded than the 10 y.o. Much better I would say. I tried the Lord Of The Isles bottling (25y.o.) at the whisky show this weekend and that was just fantastic, really very good indeed, but then it is £100 a bottle.....

I was disappointed with the claret finish of Bowmore - It didn't improve the drink - merely a novelty i.m.o. I have surf, but haven't tried it - I'd like to see if anyone else has tried this one.

The sherry wood glenmorangie is nice - haven't tried the fino one. The talk Glenmorangie did was interesting - look forward to an improved 10y.o. in three years time. I tried it as a 7 y.o. and it was as good as the current 10y.o. and much better than a 7y.o. using the old techniques. (they've improved several methods there, it would seem).

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Postby MrAndySais » Mon Mar 11, 2002 11:24 pm


thanks for your answers.

Today I got an Aberlour 15 Sherry Wood Finish of which I have heard so many good comments. It was surprisingly good and I prefer it even over an Macallan...

I wanted to get a Glenmorangie Sherry Wood Finish or a Fino Fiish tomorrow, depending on what my wallet will have to say about it. Image
Is there such a big difference betweem the 10-year-old and the 12-year-old? I have 3 Glenmorangies (10, Port, Madeira) and don´t like the 10-y.o. that much.

I would love to try more Ardbegs but they are simply too expensive for me (at the moment).

I called my Whisky shop here in Munich today and asked them to get me Blackadder Raw Casks of Bowmore and Highland Park. Are these fillings the ones with the most intense flavour?


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Postby BruceCrichton » Tue Mar 12, 2002 7:39 pm

The difference between 12 Yr old and 10 Yr old Glenmorangie is staggering.

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Postby bartok » Sat Mar 16, 2002 7:35 am

I recommend the Aberlour A'bunadh(batch6)I like it more than the Macallan12 or 18(1982).As far as the Bowmores go ,I prefer the Mariner15 over the 12.. Had one glass of the17 and the Darkest and found them similar,if anything the 17 tasted purer(so I am not sure if they have a place in a collection that has Mariner15).As far as Ardbegs go the 17 is different enough(compared to the 10) to include in a collection.

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Postby MrAndySais » Sat Mar 16, 2002 7:28 pm

Hi, Aberlour a´bunadh is very good, but I think it tastes like cherries (not Sherry Image ).

It is hard for me to tell the difference between Bowmore 12, 15 and 17. They all taste smooth. I prefer Surf over Darkest because Surf is a little bit more salty.

I just had one sip of Ardbeg 17 and it didn´t have the surprise value as Ardbeg 10. This is my favourite when I try to introduce friends to Single Malts.

Today I bougth Cask Strengths of Glenmorangie, Highland Park (Signatory) and Bowmore (Blackadder). Í will try them tonight.


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Postby Deactivated Member » Sun Mar 17, 2002 4:00 pm

Hi Andy,

Why don't you try a Bunnahabhain 12Y or the vintages 1963, 1965 or the 1968 "Familiy Silver"??

Perhaps a nice Balvenie 21Y old Portwood would suit you.

Or try some Highland Park vintages or the regular ages like 12Y, 18Y, 25Y.

Or maybe if you like to go on a nice lighter dram, try The Glenturret 12Y,15Y,15Y"proof",18Y or even a 21Y or 25Y old.

Any way here are some suggestions....



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Postby St.Peat » Sun Mar 17, 2002 5:30 pm

Hi, all --

Through a light fog I write this before running out to direct a few church programs : )

Riannon Walsh put together a splendid evening of whisky tasting, lectures, and general industry mingling.

Congratulations, Riannon, on a simply marvelous event!! Image

I will report more later, when I've a more relaxed moment.

Cheers! -- Mark Adams.

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Re: A newbie needs recommendations

Postby Drammed » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:39 pm


Zombie thread. I thought Halloween was over :lol: :wink:

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Re: A newbie needs recommendations

Postby clicker7 » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:50 am

I was about to suggest Talisker 18 -- till I noticed the 2002 date on this.

I'm sure he has tried it by now!


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