Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Deactivated Member » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:28 am

It's five before eight in the morning here and I'm thinking of tea, not whisky.

Good luck but I now confirm that I had my rare day off yesterday and will not be available tonight.


In fact, due to a possible late one today and another very early one tomorrow, I may not even get home tonight :dead:

But there again, if I do stay in the pub tonight I will not be driving home, so if I get chance, I may even sample my PE 2nd online from the pub.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:10 pm

I have all of two PEs but will come in after the usual weekend errands. In the meantime, have a great time!

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Leorin » Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:09 pm

I'll try to work myself through the following line-up tonight:


McGibbons Provenance 1982 19yo (courtesy Collector 57)
Berry Brothers 1982 2007 #2469 46% (courtesy Ras)
Douglas Laing Provenance Aut 82 - Sum 04 21yo 46%
Bladnoch bottling 25yo Butt 2036 58.1% (courtesy Willie)
Signatory Scottish Wildlife 10 y.o. 43% (courtesy Willie & SoI)
PE AR2
PE AR3

This looks as if it's going to be a wonderful eavening :D

Looking forward to see you all later...
Kevin

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Wave » Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:29 pm

It's just a tad too early for me yet (10am here) but on tap for tonight is...

22yo 1979 Signatory Vintage cask #5537 43%
18yo 1983 Scott's Selection 55.5%
22yo 1983 OMC cask #2119 50%
23yo 1979 Signatory Vintage cask #6774 56.3%
25yo Bladnoch Bottling cask #2036 58.1%
25yo 1982 Signatory Vintage cask #2844 58%

Mmmmm, looks yummy! :P

Cheers!

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby TheTross » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:05 pm

I've got the following to work through/choose from:

  • 3rd Release, 57.3%
  • 7th Release, 53.8% (ryguy)
  • 22yo 1983/2005, 50% OMC
  • 25yo 1979 OMC, 50% (ryguy)
  • Bladnoch cask 2036, 58.1% (WillieJJ)
  • Bladnoch cask 2037, 56.2% (Jimmy321)
  • 25yo 1982/2008 A. D. Rattray, Cask 2466, 60.4%
  • 10yo Signatory Scottish Wildlife, 43% (WillieJJ/SOI)
  • 1982/2007 Berry's, cask 2469, 46% (Ras Mazunga)
  • 19yo 1982/2001 McGibbons Provenance, 43% (Collector57)
  • 1982/2007 DDC, Cask 1144, RMW 10th Anniversary bottling, 51.5%


Thanks very much to all that sent me samples! One or two of them date back quite a while but have come in handy for the tasting...

In other news, I'm now not going to Wales. The event's probably going to be cancelled due to part of the route having been flooded thanks to torrential rain, so we're not risking a four-hour round trip to see a whole lot of nothing. That means there's a chance I'll be available for the entire tasting! However, there's now also a chance I'll be out all night with a couple of mates, but I'm still waiting to hear about that. And because I've no idea what's going on anymore I'm not going to start the tasting early as I had hoped to do. Why is nothing simple?!

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Leorin » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:59 pm

PE 1982-2001 Mc Gibbons 19y.o. (coutesy of Collector 57)

Nose: dark orange chocolate, caramelized nuts, phenols, peat
Taste: base (alkali), iodine, smoked tea (pu erh), rather soft
Finish: leather, peat, medium lenght
conclusion: An interesting PE that finallly reveals his origin clearly at the finish. Would have been even better with a little more power I guess.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Leorin » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:12 pm

PE Signatory Scottish Wildlife 10 y.o.
N:Iodine, peat, celp, metallic, freshly broken boughs
T:fruit acid, metallic, youthful power, peatsmoke, bittern
F:acidic, assam tea, peat
C: Dryer than I suspected. For me it plays in the same league as the 10 y.o. Laphroaig or the 12 y.o. Caol Ila. I read that they decided to close PE because they thought that it was inferior to CI for it's significantly slower maturation. This expression deosn't confirm that reason.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Leorin » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:23 pm

PE Berry's Own Selection 1982-2007 Cask 2469

N: resolvent, peat, cheese, maritime (seabreeze), complex, intoxicating
T: viscous, peat, ashes,malty, very ballanced
F: glowing, peatsmoke
C: Almost perfect drinking strenght PE. I love this expression.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby TheTross » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:28 pm

Port Ellen 1982/2007 (46%, Berry's Own Selection, Cask #2469)

Nose: Mild peat and pepper. Quite medicinal - iodine and antiseptic cream. Lemon and hints of plums and vanilla. Some soot. Gently smoked peppered fish (kippers?). Becomes quite creamy when left to breathe a little, and I don't know how or why but I can detect hints of those strawberry-flavoured Campino sweets here!

Palate: A bit more peaty than on the nose, with quite a bit of smoke. Gently peppery. Citrussy, mainly lemon. Mildly medicinal here too, largely on iodine.

Finish: Coal smoke and very soft peat. Also a touch peppery and creamy. Becomes lemony and after a short while, with the smoke lingering. Smoked lemons???


I find this to be very elegant, with the usual peat and pepper toned down a little to allow the fruitier side to come through. Lovely whisky! Thanks very much for the sample Ras!

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:41 pm

Evening all, sorry I'm late (as usual). Many thanks to all who have sent me samples - I will recognise each kind sender individually throughout the evening. Enough to say I felt like a kid at Christmas/Birthday time opening all the lovely packages today. Here's to a great evening, one and all.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Leorin » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:48 pm

PE Mc Gibbon's Provenance Aut 82-Sum04 46%

N: sherry, leomon, hints of burnt matches
T:fruity, sherry sweetness, bittersweet, tobacco, rather light peat
F: bittersweet, leathery peat, medium lenght
C:Less peaty with sherry influence and a "touch of lemon". A Port Ellen for the summer?

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Leorin » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:56 pm

Cheers everybody.
I'm happy to see there are more and more who are joining in.
Thanks to everybody who supplied a sample to me!
Slainte
Kevin

PS: Steve, I hope my sample arrived in time. I didn't manage to bring it to the post office before tuesday because I had too much work to do.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:58 pm

Evening all !
Thought i might as well drop in , have dug out some PE's for later (though i have to say i'm not the biggest PE fan....i'm in the blending fodder club but less of that...) .
Starting off with a beer though , a rather nice Saligo all from the two Pauls at Islay Ales .

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:04 pm

PE 10 Yo Signatory Scottish Wildlife 43% (Thank you to Spirit of Islay)

Nosing glass (from Highland Park distillery). I raise my glass to friends in Kirkwall and all on the forum obviously.

Nose Peat, woodyness, touch of fruit,
Taste Peat, lemon, touch of dry wood, slightly hot and metallic, lively and young (like a boisterous 10 yo)
Finish Fades gently and lingers for a while (with the taste filtering through)
Comment Very interesting to try a 10yo whisky from a distillery which closed in 1983 - this must be rare.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:06 pm

Hi Kevin

Sample arrived this morning - perfect timing

Cheers
Steve

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:10 pm

Hi Nick

I'm here too. Thanks for the McGibbons Provenance - I'll post notes on it shortly.

Cheers
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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Leorin » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:12 pm

PE Bladnoch Forum 25 y.o. 58,1%vo.

N:top soil, natural vanilla, peatsmoke, butter
T:sweet, peat, wine gums
F:ashes, peat
B:Another outstanding PE!

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:20 pm

You're lucky in the fact that i was originally putting the young PE into a tasting i done at Ardbeg in 2005 but pulled it when i opened it to write tasting notes as it stunk to high heaven !
I still find a slightly off note in it and a few other PE's , if it's not an off note it's something i don't like in PE's .

Signatory Scottish Wildlife Port Ellen 10yo 43%

N: Very weak with that damn off note, slight peat and very subdued Iodine .
P: I can see why you compare this with the CI 12yo , again everything seems subdued compared to it's Islay Brothers . Peat , iodine but none of the wonderful germolene of the CI .
F:Not very long and slight sweet peat .
C:Still stand by my original comment on tasting this , i can see why it was shut down in favour of Laga and CI.....
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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby TheTross » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:21 pm

My last tasting today. Will be back tomorrow to do the rest...

Port Ellen 19yo 1982/2001 (43%, McGibbons Provenance)

Nose: Some interesting off-notes initially that (thankfully) soon develop into dark, lightly spiced (cinnamon?) orange chocolate. Almost no peat or smoke at first, but this comes through a little with time. Lemon juice. A touch peppery. Some caramel notes and perhaps a little farmy. Maybe even a touch yeasty.

Palate: Gentle and lightly phenolic. Powdered dark chocolate and citrus fruit. Hints of manure. Becomes quite drying. Traces of iodine.

Finish: Surprisingly fruity (citrus), with the trademark smoke and pepper appearing shortly after. Smoked fish makes a brief appearance, with caramel, soft peat and rather bizarrely, milk replacing it. Slightly medicinal and smoky (burnt tyre smoke) towards the end.


I found this to be quite a strange PE, but the longer it spent in the glass the better it became. Thanks for the sample Nick!

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:22 pm

Evening all. Wow, page 2 already, I didn't think it was that late. Best get a bottle open :)

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:33 pm

PE 19yo 43% McGibbons Provenance Spring 1982 to Spring 2001 Non Coloured, Non Chill Filtered (Thanks to Nick/C57)

Nosing glass (from Oban distillery)

Nose Iodine, lovely and gentle

Taste Soft arrival, then lashings of iodine and then slightly peppery.

Finish Seems short and final, then the iodine rumbles on for quite a while

Comment A good straightforward dram.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:35 pm

McGibbons Provenance 1981 18yo 43%
Forgot i had this one and going off the colour it's from Sherry Casks.....
N: Not a bad nose , no sherry nasties , spices , dried fruits , Christmas cake , a whiff of peat smoke.....
P: Very smooth on the palate , not overly sherried , again a touch of peat / smoke in amongst all the stuff associated with sherry .
F:Nice medium sherry finish .
C:Seeing i bought this in 2000 / 2001 when i was going through my i don't like sherried whisky phase i can see why i put it away , a very nice easy drinking whisky .

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:36 pm

Starting with a little taste of a sample of Dewar Rattray 24yo from TheShrink - thanks :thumbsup: "Little" because I drank most of it weeks ago when he sent it. Ah well, it's got to be finished some time :)

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby lohssanami » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:36 pm

Ok...I'm just finishing lunch, and I just need to clean the palate before I run through my lineup.

OMC 25yo 1979 2005 50% abv, (courtesy Ryan)
Signatory Vintage 22yo 1979 2002 43% abv, Refill Sherry, Cask 5537 (courtesy Ryan)
McGibbons Provenance 19yo Spring 1982 - Spring 2001 43% (courtesy C57)
Provenance 23yo - April 1982-May 2006 - 46% (courtesy Mikey)

Perhaps I'll start with the Sig, and work my way up in ABV.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:49 pm

Signatory Vintage 1979 22yo Cask 5143 43%

N:Very Citric ( Lemon ) , touch iodine .
P: Very fudgy ! green fruits.....Hang on am i tasting a Bruichladdich ?
F:longish citric .
C:Really Weird PE , kind of lowlanderish/Bruichladdichish . Strange.....

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:49 pm

PE 21yo 46% DL Provenance Autumn 1982 to Summer 2004 (Thanks Leorin/Kevin)

Nose Sherry, cough medicine (which I like so I'm not complaining), whiff of struck matches

Taste Gentle, smooth, cough medicine, peat, iodine, oranges, slightly metallic

Finish More of the same

Comment A very good, straightforward PE which I like.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:50 pm

Port Ellen 24yo: Dewar Rattray Cask Collection, sherry cask 1982 58.2%

Nose: Creosoted wood at a sea harbour, tealeaves, toffee sweetness, raisin chocolate, plums, cinnamon.
Palate: Immediately that sweet toffee, followed by leather and then the peat comes through.
Finish: Looooong. Waves of sweetness and seaside.

This has a strong colour, presumably from the sherry cask which has added lovely balanced sweetness without going off on an orange tangent that sherry sometimes does. I love the nose on this.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:59 pm

OMC 25yo Mar 76 (b.Apr 01) 50%

N:That off putting smell is there , fudge (again!) , lemon drizzle cake (Huh!) slight iodine . .
P:Much better on the palate , the nicest iodine i've had yet .
F: long , citric and slight peat.
C: Probably the best PE of the night so far , toss up between this and the Provenance , still an average drinking malt though.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:06 pm

PE 24/25yo 46% Berry Brothers 1982 2007 #2469 (Thanks to Ras)
Glencairn glass.

Nose Germolene, then sweet fudge appears

Taste Lovely sweetness comes through the middle with the iodine/germolene down the side. Bubbles nicely on the tongue with the strength.

Finish More of the same. Medium length finish with a touch of smoke, leather and salt.

Comment My favourite so far this evening. Akin to top notch Caol Ila. Lovely dram.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:13 pm

Signatory Vintage 1976 21yo Cask 4754 57.9%

N: This is much better , is that Chocolate ? fresh apples , ozone .
P: Wow , pepper ! Iodine , slightly spicy , fills the mouth !
F: Lovely long peppery finish .
C: This has been top of my PE pops for a long time , definitely in my top 3 , now if only all PE's were like this.....

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby lohssanami » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:15 pm

McGibbons Provenance 19yo Spring 82 - Spring 01 43%

Nose: Seaweed and mint, charred pinecones.

Taste: More mint with a little smoke, and I almost taste some lime.

Finish: Medium finish with a pine needle stickiness.

It is vastly different from the only other PE I've had, the 7th Annual Release. An interesting dram nonetheless.

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:15 pm

mikeymad wrote:I was just thinking ....

This will probably be one of the oldest tasting that we will have......

As far as average age of the whisky being tried.... and maybe the total age of the whisky being tried....

A lot in the 20s.

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I can do that with the Ardbeg one Mikey......

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby badgerbrown » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:22 pm

I only have the one open at the moment, so here goes...

Port Ellen 1979 3rd release. Bottled 2003. 57.3%

Nose High peat levels with pleanty of cereal character. Engine oil/carbolic phenols. Big sea-air freshness. As it opens heather honey, red fruits/berries, almond nuttiness and swirling orange oils on top.
With water - Aromatherapy essential oils with white pepper.

Taste Oranges, peat, alcohol, white pepper, quite sweet.
With water - More pepper and oranges and peat. Sea-air, then goes to a bitter dark chocolate.

Finish Gentle oak shows up. Plump sultana and cocoa. Then seaweed, cashews and orange/lemon juice.Delicate peat smoke curls.
With water - Orange zest and a little pith and tumbling threads of honey. Slight figginess, then nutiness comes through but under a rolling peaty tide.

Overall, an exercise in swirling oily subtlety; hues rather than explicit notes. I'd love an aromatherapy massage if it smelt like this!

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Leorin » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:24 pm

Port Ellen 22 y.o. Jack Wiebers Gentle Noses 1982/2005 62,2%
N:cherry jam, liquorice, peatsmoke, antiseptic
P:sweet, black tea, good suphur, iodine, very compact
F:sherry, tea, peat, very long
C: This one is amazing. If you like your malt peated and sherried, you have to find this one
(my sample of this is empty now :( )

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Re: Port Ellen Tasting - October 4th - 7 PM

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:30 pm

Hello everyone!
Although I have a blocked nose and a sore throat I'm going to this anyway. Last night I had some PE3 and it tasted great.
Thank you all for swapping samples.
I'll start with Gordons sample because it is the youngest:
Signatory Scottish Wildlife 43% 10yo
n: malt with some mashed potatoes, fresh fuits maybe peaches. lightly peated.
t: peat, pear and some wood, nice and fresh
f: fresh of lemon, drying in the end


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