November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:04 am

Okay if ye are really going with November I'll disregard the October thread.

I'm nearly sure Nov 15th is good for me. But don't know if we'll bring anything more to the table :oops:

I have Greenore 8yo open at the mo so can get some samples out to the UK guys.

In the Blends category I would suggest Blackbush there rather than Bushmills NAS (white) as it is far superior but only if it's widely available which I would imagine it is.
Jameson 12yo is perfect for tasting beside the Redbreast 12yo
Tyrconnell Nas is also :thumbsup:

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby cathach » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:35 am

I think we need a peated malt as well, Connemara seems pretty well available so how about a cask strength or the 12yo?

And a peated blend to add to the blend category? Like Inishown perhaps?

or even an indie bottling e.g. Knappogue Castle 1994/1995

Re: the pure pot still I imagine some specialist in the US might have Green Spot.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:29 pm

Greenspot I think could be a tough one because as far as I can remember IDL are contracted to produce only 600 cases yearly (I think) and I presume that may even be only 6bottle cases which seems to be the norm now days :o

SO as little as 3600 bottles up to 7200 bottles which is not a lot really but if anybody has any better information let us know.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby cathach » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:25 pm

Well I've bought 2x 12 or 4x 6 cases of the Green Spot this year so I've either bought .33% or .66% of their total production!!

As far as I know they must mean 12 bottle cases even thought the offies get them in cases of 6. So that'd be 7200 bottles per year. It's very popular in dublin and is on all the German/UK websites nowadays.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby DavidH » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:44 pm

Ganga wrote:If Greenspot is making the US market, I'm not seeing it.

I'm pretty sure it's not bottled in 750ml size so it's not sold in the US.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby cathach » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:08 am

Ganga wrote:If Greenspot is making the US market, I'm not seeing it.


A mate of mine is heading to San Francisco on the 5th of Novemeber so I could get him to bring a bottle over and post it to you if you'd like?

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby cathach » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:47 pm

Well the offer still stands if one of you would be prepared to send samples onwards to the others. Whichever of you would like to do that let me know via pm and we can sort something out.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby TheTross » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:35 pm

Ganga wrote:Here's my question for all of you: How do we get participation from more of the forum members?


I'm not convinced we can. It's not as if members don't know it's happening - there have been at least two threads on this now - so perhaps we're the only ones interested in taking part. Bit of a shame, as more is better in this case, but you can't force people to join in...

Anyway, the lineup sounds good to me. Shame there's no RB15 in there, as by all accounts it sounds an absolute belter, but I suppose it's getting very difficult to get hold of!

Has it been decided who's buying what yet?

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby lohssanami » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:42 pm

I can also meet up with your friend cathach, and if there is a US marketed bottle you need, perhaps we can send it back with your mate.

Binny's has Connemara CS for $59.99, as well as the other varieties.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Aidan » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:25 pm

I may be able to make this date. It's a long way away, but I'm sure I could make it.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Ryguy » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:30 pm

Aidan wrote:I may be able to make this date. It's a long way away, but I'm sure I could make it.


We'll look forward to seeing you then Aidan!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Aidan » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:34 pm

What do I have to do? Please excuse my ignorance.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Ryguy » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:06 pm

The Tasting List
Blends:

Jameson's 12yo
Bushmills Original

Pure Pot Still:
Redbreast 12yo

Single Malt:
Tyrconnel NAS

Single Grain:
Greenore 8yo

The tasting list is shown above. And you are in no way limited to that selection, a few people will have this plus some available to them. And others will have only one or two from the list above. I think because of the differences in availability in the UK and US, if we can each have 2 common bottles, we're doing well.

It will be held here in the Live Tasting Forum on Saturday, November 15th. Tastings typically start at 7PM GMT, but we'll most likely choose a time that works for everyone in the group.

The folks in the US are each either buying 50ml minis of the whiskies above, or a bottle in some cases to be distributed to others in 50ml samples. The folks from the UK are doing the same I believe. Willie JJ or The Tross will be your contacts if you need help obtaining samples. But being from Dublin, I don't think you'll have a problem finding Irish Whiskies.

If you have any other questions, feel free to PM either Ganga or Myself. Look forward to having you participate!! :thumbsup:

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Ras Mazunga » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:12 pm

I would like to join too.
Probably I'll buy a Green Spot. Hopefully many of you want to swap samples with me. :thumbsup:

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby TheTross » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:31 pm

Glad to hear you'll join us Ras!

If you want to bring the Green Spot to the tasting then that's fine, though I'm not sure what its availability is like for the US members. If you're wanting to split it - at least amongst the European contingent - then I have no problem with that; we can all sort out sample swaps easily enough. I know I'd swap a sample with you :thumbsup:

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DavidH?
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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Jobi » Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:49 pm

I'm interested and following the thread closely, but I won't be able to commit to the date until much closer. My plans to join past tastings always had to be scrapped at the last minute.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Ryguy » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:02 pm

Jobi wrote:I'm interested and following the thread closely, but I won't be able to commit to the date until much closer. My plans to join past tastings always had to be scrapped at the last minute.


Good deal Jobi, hopefully you can make it! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby lohssanami » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:00 pm

I'll go ahead and pickup a bottle of the Connemarra CS peated, and I'll send samples out to the US folks. I've wanted to get a bottle anyways, and I found some in California for $50.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby DavidH » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:38 pm

Looks like I got volunteered :D

I'll participate with whatever is on my shelf at the time.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby lohssanami » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:02 am

lohssanami wrote:I'll go ahead and pickup a bottle of the Connemarra CS peated, and I'll send samples out to the US folks. I've wanted to get a bottle anyways, and I found some in California for $50.


If there is something you would rather I grab, let me know, and I can pick it up too.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Ryguy » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:26 am

lohssanami wrote:
lohssanami wrote:I'll go ahead and pickup a bottle of the Connemarra CS peated, and I'll send samples out to the US folks. I've wanted to get a bottle anyways, and I found some in California for $50.


If there is something you would rather I grab, let me know, and I can pick it up too.


lohssanami, I think the Connemarra CS peated is a good choice. Any thoughts on this Ganga?

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Ryguy » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:50 am

Collector57 wrote:
Willie JJ wrote:Who amongst the Euro crew is up for sending samples to the others? This might not work for the Irish folks as the brits may be very unlikely to be able to find a bottle that you don't have.

Cheers

Yep. The McGibbons for sure, and maybe another if Ryan forces me to open one :evil:

(Just thought I'd get that in pre-emptively Ry...)


Anytime you feel like you need to be pursuaded to open a new bottle, I'm here for you Nick! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby cathach » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:07 pm

Collector57 wrote:Yep. The McGibbons for sure,


McGibbons?? Pardon my ignorance but is this an IB of an Irish malt?


WillieJJ
Cooley released several OBs of a 15yo Tyrconnell this year, all from single casks @ 46%abv. They all come in at £45 or so in the U.K.
Cadenhead also have a 15yo single cask, cask strength Cooley.
There are also a few Connemara single casks around I think.
Or even the Connemara 12yo, it's lovely but very dear

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby cathach » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:13 pm

royalmilewhiskies.co.uk have

single malt:
Connemara 1992 sc ncf 46% @ £44.95
Connemara 12yo 40% @ £54.95
Tyrconnell 10yo Port/Madeira/Sherry ncf 46% @ £44.95
Tryconnell 15yo sc ncf 46% @ £49.95
Knappgue Castle 1995 nc ncf @ £

blend:
Bushmills 1608 ncf @ £48.95

thewhiskyexchange.com

single malt:
Connemara 1992 sc ncf 46% @ £43.99
Connemara 12yo 40% @ £52.49
Bushmills 1989 sherry cask ncf cask strength 53.7% @ £86.99
Knappogue Castle 1995 nc ncf 40% @ £29.99
Locke's 8yo 40% @ £25.99
Tyrconnell 15yo sc ncf 46% @ £45.99

single grain:
Greenore 15yo single grain ncf 43% @ £48.99

blend:
Jameson Gold 40% @ £44.99
Jameson 18yo 40% @ £69.99

milroys of soho:

single malt:
Connemara 12yo 40% @ £50.00
Knappogue Castle 1995 nc ncf 40% @ £27.49
Lockes 8yo 40% @ £24.95
Tyconnell 10yo Port Finish ncf 46% @ £44.90

single grain:
Milroys Cooley 16yo sc ncf 46% @ £45

blend:
Bushmills 1608 ncf 46% @ £49.95
Jameson Gold 40% @ £50.00
Jameson 18yo 40% @ £75.00

Thats just to give you an idea of whats out there, best value for money though is probably the Cadenhead Cooley 15yo cask strength @ £49.50 if you can still get it.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby DavidH » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:27 pm

I'd like to opt out of the passing around of samples on this occasion. I'm ruthlessly pruning my various activities to try and get a long overdue venture launched.

I'll just run with whatever is on my shelf on November 15 (I only stock Irish anyway :) ).

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby TheTross » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:49 pm

As I posted in the PE tasting thread, I'm desperately trying not to buy any whisky for an indefinite period, which rules me out of buying a bottle specifically for it. It also prevents me from buying a bottle for this tasting to share with everyone involved, so as with DavidH I'm afraid I'll be skipping swapping samples. I do have a couple of Irish whiskeys available - all Clontarf - so I'll just taste those. Unfortunately though, none of the bottles have enough contents for sample swaps.

I'll also have to pass on receiving samples for the tasting in exchange for any other whisky; as much as I'd love to do this, I'm not at all reliable with attending tastings and there's usually a good chance I'll end up being elsewhere, so I don't want to end up with a good selection of Irish drams and not be able to take part. Besides, I feel that that would be abusing the generosity of people here, which I'm not willing to do.

So just to sum up: I'll still be taking part with the tasting IF I'm around to do so, but I won't be able to buy a bottle to share with everyone or swap samples, for which I apologise.

I hope I've not let anyone down by doing this :(

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby TheTross » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:42 pm

It's a very good idea Willie, and one that I was more than happy to join in with until I realised I'm simply spending far too much on whisky and need to get out of the habit. Hopefully I'll be able to dedicate some funds to the hobby again at some point, when I'll gladly share a bottle or two for these tastings, but I just can't see it happening in the near future.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Ras Mazunga » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:54 pm

I'm ready. Partly anyway, receeived 85 sample bottles for FREE. A generous uncle working at a chemical plant. :empty: :empty: :empty:
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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Ryguy » Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:56 pm

Participant update:

North America
Ryguy
Ganga
Mikeymad
Lohssanami
Wave
Jobi

Europe
The Tross
Willie JJ
Collector57
Cathach
Irishwhiskychaser
Aidan
DavidH
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If I have missed anyone I apologize, as everyone is welcome. :D

If anyone else is interested in joining in, please speak up. For members in the US, I have a bottle of the Jameson Irish NAS and also Redbreast 12yo, in which I'll be sending out samples to the group. Also it seems as though 50ml minis of some others being tasted are readily available here in the States.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby IainB » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:41 pm

Hi all don't know if I'm around yet but will make it if I can.
By the way, if there's any shortfall of samples let me know and I'll see what I can do. I wonder should we consider adding the Redbreast 15 (I know it's late to be saying this) but it seems to be the one we talk about most. Between all of us who have it we should be able to drum up a few sample to pass around.

By the way, IWC, I'm fairly certain I've read that it's 6000 cases, i.e. 36,000 bottles.

Come to think of it, one of Mitchell's shops is across the road. I'll pop in and ask them.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby cathach » Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:29 am

Willie JJ wrote:Cathach (and IWC, Aidan and DavidH), what Nick and I were suggesting (forgive me if I'm stating the obvious here) is that we could each buy a bottle that none of the Irish gang have so that we could participate in swapping with you for the tasting (assuming that you would wish to participate in such a venture). The problem is that we don't know what you don't have/haven't tried. If you could decide amongst yourselves what best fits the bill then we will buy it and send samples to you in return for samples of something else from you.

I think I can offer something different anyway. A certain independent bottler is about to release a new 16yo from a certain distillery, (neither in the North nor the far South of Ireland), in October and it is very good indeed. I would be happy to get that and share it around. However if you'd prefer something else then that's fine too.

Any thoughts on such an arrangement?


It sounds like an excellent arrangement :smoke: I just wanted to publicise the variety of price and availability. None of us here in the ROI will have tasted a 16yo (Middle-North-East of Ireland :wink: ) malt so I imagine all of us would be intrigued. The thing is what could we each offer you in return? I hope to arrange sufficient Green Spot for the North American contingent but I can't imagine a regular Irish offering that either of you would have missed. I certainly wouldn't be averse to sending a pure pot still sample + a mystery malt to the European members.

Plus while we're at it where can I get 40ish sample bottles?

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby IainB » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:50 am

cathach wrote:
Willie JJ wrote:Cathach (and IWC, Aidan and DavidH), what Nick and I were suggesting (forgive me if I'm stating the obvious here) is that we could each buy a bottle that none of the Irish gang have so that we could participate in swapping with you for the tasting (assuming that you would wish to participate in such a venture). The problem is that we don't know what you don't have/haven't tried. If you could decide amongst yourselves what best fits the bill then we will buy it and send samples to you in return for samples of something else from you.

I think I can offer something different anyway. A certain independent bottler is about to release a new 16yo from a certain distillery, (neither in the North nor the far South of Ireland), in October and it is very good indeed. I would be happy to get that and share it around. However if you'd prefer something else then that's fine too.

Any thoughts on such an arrangement?


It sounds like an excellent arrangement :smoke: I just wanted to publicise the variety of price and availability. None of us here in the ROI will have tasted a 16yo (Middle-North-East of Ireland :wink: ) malt so I imagine all of us would be intrigued. The thing is what could we each offer you in return? I hope to arrange sufficient Green Spot for the North American contingent but I can't imagine a regular Irish offering that either of you would have missed. I certainly wouldn't be averse to sending a pure pot still sample + a mystery malt to the European members.

Plus while we're at it where can I get 40ish sample bottles?


Go to your local GP - say you're there for a medical - they'll give you a sample bottle for urine - then leg it out the door.

Repeat process at multiple health centres until required amount of sample bottles have been acquired.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby DavidH » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:43 am

IainB wrote:Go to your local GP - say you're there for a medical - they'll give you a sample bottle for urine - then leg it out the door.

Repeat process at multiple health centres until required amount of sample bottles have been acquired.

Gee, so much trouble! Just go to any clinic and say "Hi, I'm here from the lab to collect the urine samples". (Did somebody mention "mystery malt"?)

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:00 am

Okay was tuned out for a while ....

Right lets get some order to proceedings :wink:

I presume we are going with a few regular bottles as previously discussed.

Blends:
Jameson's 12yo (Adrian aka IWC Check :wink: )
Bushmills Original :dead:

Pure Pot Still:
Redbreast 12yo (IWC Check)

Single Malt:
Tyrconnel NAS :dead:

Single Grain:
Greenore 8yo (IWC Check)

People that have not ruled themselves out for the swaps are as follows. Remember you can always do this tasting before or after and post your thoughts after the fact. Further you don't feel under pressure to have one of everything listed so even if you have only 3 or 4 that is fine.

On info I have received from totally unreliable sources :lol: maybe we can get the swap bottles bit rolling

Maybe something like this.

Europe
Willie JJ : International Man of Mystery Malt
Collector57 : Connemara Cask Strength (probably the best in the range on price/value ratio)
Cathach : ??? possibly Greenspot or Knappogue
Irishwhiskychaser : Cadenhead 13yo or Milroys Grain or Redbreat 15yo or SMWS 118.1 (Cooley Peated, ) or ... or ... or ... :wink: I'll let the European panel decide.
Aidan : ???
Ras Mazunga : ???
IainB : ??? (maybe IainB you could do RB15 you'll have at least me off your postal list for that one :thumbsup: )

So basically people can add or

I'd vote to go with the SMWS from my lot .... Looking forward to this whether it is opened for the tasting or not. Actually the Cadenheads 13yo is probably not far from this type either. Quite different to the Connemara I feel.

So just to whet your appetites... :P

SMWS notes .....
Nose: noticeably phenolic: smoky-bacon crisps with carbolic soap. The mouthfeel at full strength is oily and the flavour very sweet, with traces of sheep dip. 'Fruity teryaki marinade' was also noted. Water reduces the impact, softens and sweetens the whisky, although the carbolic remains.
Taste: The flavour starts sweet then becomes very smoky/charcoal-like
Finish: less carbolic and a trace of chocolate in the finish.

By the way if people would like to discus this, I can organise a conference call with joint Irish & UK land line numbers (So national call rates for all) .... just a thought.

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Re: November 15 Irish Whiskey Tasting

Postby Ras Mazunga » Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:04 pm

Just arrived home with a Greenspot.


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