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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:16 am

Glenfiddich 12yo Special Reserve 40% (alternate glass)

Glass: Riedel Crystal
Water: None

Nose: Stilll very llight on the nose. This glass clearly isn't meant for nosing (well not my nose anyway). Still lots of citrus and mixed white fruits for me.

Palate: Ok my palate is back to where I need to be. Just took one to get things going again. Honey sweet, a hint vanilla, some spice.

Finish: Short but the honey is hanging around some.

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:22 am

Good to still have you around Willie!! I enjoyed the 18 as well, glad to hear it rated so high compared to the 21 and 30.

The 15 CS was really good IMO, I just prefer CS anyway, as I think you can get more out of it.

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:30 am

Moving along to the Glenfiddich 12yo New Bottling 40%
Part 1, Riedel will be next.

Glass: Glencairn
Water: None

Nose: I still say there is some oak present and a bit of malt. And something sweet, not sure what though.

Palate: Starts sweet with some apples and malt.

Finish: Pretty much a short finish, some spice comes out in the end.

Thanks again Ganga for the sample!!!

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:32 am

Ganga, that's about how I put it earlier, I said the 15 CS was pretty much a spiked 15, and def much better. Can't wait to get back to that one.

12yo new label in a Riedel now....

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby DanAir » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:33 am

Now into my 18, which is the final in my 3-part collection of GF tonight.

N: subdued, though fruit notes are still present. Coconut.
P: Cracking! Really comes of age at 18yrs having lost any of the objectionable characteristics I don't like in the 12 and becoming a really rounded dram. Tangy. Melon.
F: Much better finish - following the 15 which I found a little disappointing the finish here really finds its feet (metaphorically, luckily) and completes the package.

Therefore, 18 yr old a resounding winner in my book, with 15 close behind. Still not too keen on 12.

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:41 am

Glenfiddich 12yo New Bottling 40%

Glass: Riedel Crystal SM glass
Water: None

Nose: Light, very light. Some apples and spice, but not much.

Palate: Sweet with green apples and malt.

Finish: not a big difference in this glass as far as the finish. Some spices coming out in the end.

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:42 am

Ganga wrote:Ryan, I had a much different experience with the Special Reserve.


Different than the regular 12, or different than mine?

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby DanAir » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:44 am

OK, been great tonight guys, but I've got a bed to use and I intend to do so to the best of my abilities. Enjoy the rest of the night!!

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:46 am

Good night DanAir! It was great having you around.
Cheers!

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:49 am

Next up 15 Solera. I really liked the nose on this earlier.

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Reggaeblues » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:53 am

First, yes TT. i'm afraid Kimi will walk the Grand Prix for Ferrari...unless it rains which will spice up what is normally a bit of a dull race, and give Lewis the chance to "Do A Button!"

OK, OK enough motorhead bizness!

Time for a 15/30 head to head!

Revisitting 15 after a sliceof buttered toast...so nice! but the 18 had
the better finish IMO

15:
NOSE: Toast, Polished floors..grassy, reminiscent of the 18. late sweetness, like wine gums! Warm freshly baked spongecake...

Oh b*ll*cks! I posted notes on the 15 but they're gone! Too late to repeat. sorry! Brief |resume...lovely dram. smoothest of all so far. But finish not as good as 18. There!

GLENFIDDICH 30 YO:


Bloody hell!! It's only bin standing ina de glass for 5 minutes...but it make me sit back in my chair!

Love this kinda nose!

Old oak. sitting in a library in leather armchairs. Freshly polished floors, and bookshelves rising high. Someone in th corner lights a pipe of sweet cherry tobacco...someone walks in with freshly made tea and scones. Could sniff this all night , but I'm playing bass in church at 9.15.

Maybe i should pour this into my flask and save it for the service...

On second thoughts, I'd miss the nose...oh well. Jah forgive I mi 'angover!! Here goes...

PALATE: So much for unholy thoughts...i managed to SPILL a good few drops!!

Slurped the spillage off my desk in desparation . Oh My!!

Now this is a dram I could write a book by...

this has all the qualities I love about the 15 and 18, but with the underlying thread of age, which has given it a roundness, a sweetness, and an underlying oak and lemon theme that lasts all the way...fading into a clean, sweet, close your eyes and you're back in the library...sweet lemon and a hint of island (HP) saltiness at the death...even a hint of smoke, like distant kippers on a fresh breeze. Lingering sweetness...smoked orange(if such a thing were possible) Truffles...Keeps on giving...still sweet, still dry salt behind the sweetness. Reminds me of an old Longmorn I had - the SMWS Rasta malt...but milder(THAT was 53%!!)

This nose is orgasmic! Now there's chocolate mixed in with the sweet oak.

My last sip of the night folks. It's been a pleasure and a privilege. thanks to Matt for the samples. What a treat!

The 30 is the clear winner for me, if "winner" there has to be! I could drink a case of this!

But tonight proves how underrated GF is. so much more than a "layman's intro malt."

Will catch up with the thread tomorrow.

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:01 am

Glenfiddich 15yo Solera Reserve 40%

Glass: Glencairn
Color: Light amber
Water: None

Nose: Rich, maybe some toffee / chocolate.

Palate: Thin but there's more going on here than the 12. Rich with vanilla and mocha.

Finish: Sweet with some spice, longer than the 12yo.

Many thanks again to OKDiver1 for this sample!!

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:20 am

Cheers Willie!! Thanks for staying up late with us!! :D :D

Not much left of this sample but I managed to split it in half.

Glenfiddich 18yo Ancient Reserve 43%

Glass: Glencairn then Riedel
Water: None
Color: Amber gold

Nose: Warm and inviting, the wood is there with some spice.

Palate: A bit spicy, but in a good way. There is just a lot more going on here, huge difference than the 12 and 15. Some wood comes through late, with a nice mix of spices.

Finish: Spice, oak, sweetness, nice finish, especially compared to the 12 and 15yo's.

Thanks Ganga!!!

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:35 am

Having the 15 CS now, almost the rest of the sample I had. But I'm saving a bit for my Brother to try, he'll appreciate this stuff. :thumbsup:

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:45 am

Glenfiddich 15yo Cask Strength 51%

Glass: Riedel Crystal SM
Water: None
Color: Light gold

Nose: Sweet, mix of rich moca and toffee.

Palate: This is just better, still rich with hints of oranges as well as some spice, cinnamon I think.

Finish: Long and warming, mixed spices hang around too. OH this is gooood!

I really like this, I'd buy a bottle in a second if I saw one.
Thanks Ganga!!!! :thumbsup:

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:58 am

Yeah I'll keep my eyes open for a bottle, but last time I was at the Duty Free on my way to Quebec, they had no exclusive bottlings.

That 15 CS was very enjoyable! Thanks again. :thumbsup:

I'm going to sign off now, thanks for sticking around with me. :smoke:

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby S_tan_De_mon » Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:19 am

Ganga:

Are you still on? If so, sorry that I missed the "festivities" today/tonight. Logged on and read all the comments. Outstanding notes by all! Drammed NAS Special Reserve (after what turned out to be a "conditioning" malt - Glenfarclas 12 OB - what a beautiful "catalyst" it turned out to be)... delicious!
Then followed with a 15 Solera Reserve, 18 Ancient Reserve (unfortunately, the small amount left in the bottle had gone bad) and a 15 Cask Strength from about 8-9 yrs ago, but nearly full. Also delicious! Great dram. It'll be interesting to compare with the NZ duty free you have! :iwbrnt:

Slainte!

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ryguy » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:22 pm

Well done Ganga for keeping things going. Mikey, it was nice reading your notes.

Thanks to everyone for coming out yesterday evening, good notes all around, and as far as I'm concerned, I can't wait to explore Glenfiddich more. :thumbsup:

I'll be starting with purchasing a bottle of the 18yo.

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby TheTross » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:03 am

*Sigh*. Another tasting I missed out on. :cry:

I wanted to taste and post notes yesterday, but I ended up working last night so couldn't drink during the day. I've also had a damn cold, so me nose and taste buds aren't working properly yet. And to compound matters I'm working every night now until Saturday this week, so any notes will have to wait until Saturday afternoon at the earliest - but I will post some!

Anyway, glad to see you all had a good time!

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ian Millar » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:28 am

Ganga wrote:I would like to know:

1. if he or someone from Glenfiddich has tried pairing any of their whiskies with food.

2. which is his favorite from their line.

3. any comments he has on some of the special bottlings released by Glenfiddich such as the 33 and 40 yo expressions.


Ganga
Just incase my post did not come thru on Sat, whiskies are easy enought to pair with food providing you keep the rich flavours balanced with the less rich and vice versa.

The 15 is by far my favourite, I`m Scottish so price and flavour are at the top of the agenda always.

We have just released the 5th vatting/bottling of the 40 year olds and as we always carry a large remnant over from previous vattings this product will have whiskies from the 1920`s, 30`s 40`s and 50`s.
The last vintage, 1973 was by far my favourite so far, ex sherry, probably a refill so not too much of a sherry influence, fantastic.

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Postby Ian Millar » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:31 am

les taylor wrote:I would like to know. I really like the bottle shape. Where did the triangular shape come from? Is it something that they always expect to keep? :)


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The bottle shape was designed by Hans Schleger who also designed the London Underground logo.
It ws designed in 1956 and brought into use in 1957 for Grants Standfast then in 1961 for Glenfiddich.
According to the last Chairman, Charles Gordon, it`s shaped that way to stop it rolling out from underneath the bed in front of your wife.

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Postby Ian Millar » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:34 am

Dram fine idea wrote:I would like to ask - in the picture, which tartan is he wearing? Why do I ask? I reckon it's a Macfarlane tartan. My surname is Robb and we are affiliated to the Macfarlane clan. I have the 'green' Macfarlane tartan and I reckon he is wearing the same kilt. If we are members of the same clan that would be cool with me!
Slange!
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Steve
The tartan is Macfarlane Hunting Modern, made by my wife, all Millers and Millars are affiaited to the Macfarlane clan, hence my choice.
I also have a Green Hunting which has quite a bit of Orange through it.
All the best,
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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ian Millar » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:40 am

Nick Brown wrote:Unfortunately I can't be at the tasting, but I have a couple of questions:

will we ever have the chance to buy cask strength Solera Reserve - as it comes, straight from the vat?

when might we see regular bottlings of Kininvie?



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Not sure if the post came through on sat night.
Kininvie was built to produce malt whisky for our own internal blends and as a reciprocal for other malts.
We hvae recently bottled 500 Hazelwoods, Kininvie Single Malt.
It`s called hazelwood after the name of the house that Wm Grants Grand-duaghter lives in as she formally opened the Distillery in 1990.
Her name is Janet Roberts, Mrs Roberts is now 107 years old and doing just fine.
There are no plans to bottle any more of the Kininvie.
Ian

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby les taylor » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:41 am

Ian Millar wrote:
les taylor wrote:I would like to know. I really like the bottle shape. Where did the triangular shape come from? Is it something that they always expect to keep? :)


Les
The bottle shape was designed by Hans Schleger who also designed the London Underground logo.
It ws designed in 1956 and brought into use in 1957 for Grants Standfast then in 1961 for Glenfiddich.
According to the last Chairman, Charles Gordon, it`s shaped that way to stop it rolling out from underneath the bed in front of your
wife.




Thanks for the reply Ian. Love the story of the bottle under the bed. :)

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Postby Matt2 » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:35 pm

Thanks to everyone who took part, there are some interesting notes in there. And of course thanks to Ian / Glenfiddich for the taking part and the samples.

Finished the dregs last night, and its a fight between the 18 and 21, the 30 is very good but I'm going off wood at the moment. If you're looking for a good priced nice dram then certainly give the 18 a go.

The 21 seemed to go well with a Trinidad Reyes and coffee. :smoke:

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Ian Millar wrote:
Nick Brown wrote:Unfortunately I can't be at the tasting, but I have a couple of questions:

will we ever have the chance to buy cask strength Solera Reserve - as it comes, straight from the vat?

when might we see regular bottlings of Kininvie?



Nick
Not sure if the post came through on sat night.
Kininvie was built to produce malt whisky for our own internal blends and as a reciprocal for other malts.
We hvae recently bottled 500 Hazelwoods, Kininvie Single Malt.
It`s called hazelwood after the name of the house that Wm Grants Grand-duaghter lives in as she formally opened the Distillery in 1990.
Her name is Janet Roberts, Mrs Roberts is now 107 years old and doing just fine.
There are no plans to bottle any more of the Kininvie.
Ian

Thanks Ian. It's remarkable that Kininvie hasn't been bottles in a regular form after all these years. I know there are other distilleries that don't do an OB release, but they pretty much all make malt available for the independent bottlers. Kininvie is the mystery malt (although I did get to try some on the Seven Stills Tour in May).

It's amazing to think that Mrs Robers actually remembers William Grant - providing a living link with the very foundation of the distillery. When I was young, I used to think that 100 years was an unimaginably long period of time. This example shows how easily 150 years and more can be spanned by just two lives.

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby woodhill » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:52 pm

I'm late getting in on the act as usual.

But i've got builders in the house this week and most of my whisky is under wraps.

I have however kept out the samples from Matt (and 1 Ardbeg 10 a Laph QC and a Glenlivet 18 - to last me until next week) I will be doing the tasting myself with all your pages of notes starting with the 12 up to 30.

watch this space.

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Postby Ryguy » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:55 pm

woodhill wrote:I'm late getting in on the act as usual.

But i've got builders in the house this week and most of my whisky is under wraps.

I have however kept out the samples from Matt (and 1 Ardbeg 10 a Laph QC and a Glenlivet 18 - to last me until next week) I will be doing the tasting myself with all your pages of notes starting with the 12 up to 30.

watch this space.


Sounds great Woodhill, looking foward to the notes! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Postby TheTross » Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:31 am

Well, better late than never I suppose...

Tulip nosing glass used throughout.

Glenfiddich 12yo (40%, OB)

Colour: Mid-gold

Nose: Quite light and sweet, mostly on caramel and honey. Also a little honeycomb and faint chocolate - reminds me of Cadbury's Crunchie bars at times! Slightly minty. Quite fruity too, with citrus and melon standing out but also slight banana notes. A faint soapiness? A little dusty and oaky. Some grassy notes as well, and possibly a few wisps of smoke in the background.

Palate: Thin and a little watery. Mainly fruity (citrus, some pear) and sweet again, with a little caramel present, but there's little else that I can pick up.

Finish: Pleasant - sweet and quite minty with a nice fruitiness, but it's much too short. Becomes faintly drying after a minute or so.


Glenfidich 15yo Solera Reserve (40%, OB)

Colour: Gold.

Nose: Fairly rich and sherried. Fragrant and lightly grassy. Marzipan, icing sugar, honey. Chocolate. Coffee and burnt/very dark treacle toffee. Slight notes of sulphur and earth. Smoke? The distillery's fruity profile comes through after a little while, though it's somewhat muted. Becomes lightly soapy and dusty with time.

Palate: Sweet but quite thin and watery. Creamy and a little malty. Faintly fruity. Vague chocolate notes. A little lime? (Clutching at straws here though). Quite fragrant and soapy. Oddly quiet.

Finish: Grassy at first, possibly with a little glue, but after a few seconds it becomes much sweeter and basically turns into an abridged version of the nose, including the soft sulphuric notes.


Glenfiddich 18yo Ancient Reserve (40%, OB)

Colour: Gold

Nose: Sweet, warm, malty and a little dusty. Honey, eucalyptus. Lots of fruit (pear, melon, other 'exotic' fruits). Toffee. Cocoa powder. Slightly buttery and spicy. Vaguely smoky and yeasty.

Palate: Malty again and a little spicy, with a sherried sweetness. Creamy. Some oak present. Fruity. Good balance.

Finish: Sweet, with a little mint. Honey. Some malt, grass and fruit. The grass and honey last a while.


Glenfiddich 21yo Caribbean Rum Cask (40%, OB)

Colour: Gold.

Nose: Sweet and fragrant, with the rum influence being obvious but not overpowering. Malt and grass. A little mint. Marzipan and something akin to Turkish Delight chocolate. All sorts of fruit, though mainly citrus.

Palate: Very sweet and fruity - the rum adds an extra layer of fruit to the already fruit-filled Glenfiddich character. Malty and very faintly yeasty. A hint of chocolate.

Finish: Sweet again, becoming slightly more bitter over time. Mint appears after a few seconds, as does gentle rum, cocoa powder and fruit. A faint lavender note appears some time later.


Glenfiddich 30yo (40%, OB)

Colour: Dark gold

Nose: Lots of fruit (largely citrus and plum) and oak. Honey and a sherry sweetness. A little wood and metal polish. White chocolate. Some mint. Soy sauce. Campino sweets. A little salty and spicy. Very slightly musty. Smoke.

Palate: Quite dry and oaky, but also very fruity. Honeyed again. Creamy. Those strawberry and cream Campino sweets appear again.

Finish: Long, sweet and creamy, with heaps of citrus fruit. Fragrant and lightly spiced. Becomes a little woody and drying after a short while. Light mint notes. Strawberry sherbet? Quite thin though. Faint hints of smoke and soap develop much later on, with jam (various fruit) also appearing.


Wardhead (58.4%, The Ultimate)

Colour: Straw

Nose: A little spirity, with a eucalyptus/menthol freshness. Grass, honey and malt. A little vanilla. A faint hint of earth and smoke? Some slightly bitter/overripe fruits sitting alongside the typical Glenfiddich citrus. A touch yeasty. Hints of white chocolate. With water, the citrus notes are increased and a little cocoa powder seems to appear.

Palate: Quite hot at full strength. Lots of honey and citrus fruit. Malt and eucalyptus. Water cools it down and helps to reveal vanilla and more citrus.

Finish: Warm, sweet and honeyed. A touch grassy, with citrus fruit appearing after a few seconds. Becomes grassier over time. Water cools it down, pronounces the citrus notes and creates something akin to vanilla ice cream, but also causes a very slight soapiness towards the end.


Of the standard Glenfiddichs, in terms of value the 18yo wins it hands down for me - it just offers so much more than the 12 and 15, although the 15 does have a beautiful nose. The 21 has decent complexity and is a good drink, albeit a bit too sweet for me, whilst the 30 has a stunning nose but seems to be a little thin on the palate and finish. Why did they bottle it at 40%? It would have been exceptional at cask strength!

The Wardhead is basically cask strength Glenfiddich - it's actually a vatting of 99% Glenfiddich, 1% Balvenie. It's very, very good and illustrates how Glenfiddich really benefits from a higher ABV.

Many thanks to Matt for the OB samples and to Ras Mazunga for the Wardhead sample! :thumbsup:

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:04 pm

Great notes again Tross!

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Re: The Glenfiddich Tasting - 21st June - 7pm

Postby Dram fine idea » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:05 pm

I've finally had a chance to go back and have another taste of the GF samples. Last time I just couldn't get the full flavour from the 21 and 30, so I put some aside. Tonight I enjoyed the 21 and thought there were some similarities with the Toasted Oak 12. The 21 was a good dram but IMO not as complex as the 18 or 30. Tonight the 30 was a revelation. I agree with Willie's comments about value for money. I would certainly have a bottle of the 30 but would happily settle for the 18 as a substitute. The 30 clinched it for me with a lovely mint/menthol note. Excellent depth. Lovely. Cheers, looking forward to the Aberlour tasting.


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