The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby arkle » Fri May 16, 2008 9:11 pm

Interesting,I tried again after copious amounts of water and the flavour was different;sweeter and less bitter. Then after a couple more sips it was different again,losing most of the bitterness except right on the finish;but is this just habituation?
I like it much more on the fourth tasting than the first.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Matt2 » Fri May 16, 2008 9:18 pm

Good point Treacle about being drier. I've just had a sip of my other older ones and they all have a dryness to them. Wood influence = Dryness and loss of sweetness ?? Where are the chemists when you need them

Did you find the Lochside sample dry?

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Matt2 » Fri May 16, 2008 9:21 pm

mikeymad wrote:It is like when I have sherry and wine, I don't say, yep, tastes like Sherry, tastes like wine....


When I have a sherry I usually say 'Oh it's like that Macallan 15' :P :D

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 9:23 pm

Willie, I agree there. I prefer the sherried Macallans, but I can still appreciate the Fine Oak ones as well. In the 15yo FO I have, I can't help but getting a wicked bourbon finish. It's a good thing though, I enjoy bourbon. I don't know if that's because I'm reading into it too much or what. My Brother said the same thing before I even mentioned it, and before I let him read the label.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 9:24 pm

Matt Page wrote:Good point Treacle about being drier. I've just had a sip of my other older ones and they all have a dryness to them. Wood influence = Dryness and loss of sweetness ?? Where are the chemists when you need them

Did you find the Lochside sample dry?

Dry and peppery. And there was something dusty about it, like a rack of old suits in an attic or a barn of straw bales.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby arkle » Fri May 16, 2008 9:25 pm

The Macallan

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Fine Oak
spirity nosewith a hint of playdoh,hazelnut,cinnamon,vanilla and a hint of acetone?
Marzipan,ginger bursts in,fizzy ;then sugared almonds,then bitter almond
Bitter finish,drying,bitter marmalade and hint of dark cocolate
Found it astringent/bitter on first taste, but have warmed to it on 5th tasting!I need to keep re visiting this I think
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 9:25 pm

TreacleSponge wrote: And there was something dusty about it, like a rack of old suits in an attic or a barn of straw bales.

Or maybe the dust just fell of the Lochside into the sample bottle :P

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Fri May 16, 2008 9:28 pm

Hi folks

I'll pop in later tonight - so far I've enjoyed the comments posted

Cheers
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 9:41 pm

Dram fine idea wrote:Hi folks

I'll pop in later tonight - so far I've enjoyed the comments posted

Cheers
DFI


DFI, Hope to see you later, I'll be back around 9pm EST. And some of the guys on the West coast will be around later as well.
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 9:46 pm

Good notes Arkle and Willie on the 30yo FO. Sounds like an interesting one.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby arkle » Fri May 16, 2008 9:53 pm

Willie, you mention 'oily',what is that? is it a mouth feel or a taste?,cos often people refer to Caol Ila as oily and Im not sure what they mean.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 9:57 pm

arkle wrote:Willie, you mention 'oily',what is that? is it a mouth feel or a taste?,cos often people refer to Caol Ila as oily and Im not sure what they mean.


Typically when someone says 'oily' they are describing the mouth feel. A heavy/oily dram tends to coat your mouth well, and thus an 'oily' description. I hope this is helpful.
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby arkle » Fri May 16, 2008 10:03 pm

More like the mouthfeel of some grain whiskies?

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 10:12 pm

OOOOH Willie, that one sounds pretty interesting. :shock:
A bit of sulphur would you say??

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 10:18 pm

Definitely sounds interesting though Willie. I haven't had a bottle on the sulphury side yet I guess.
But your description was very good.

Well everyone, time to leave work then I'm heading to teeball (baseball for little kids) practice with my boys. Will be back later, hope to see some of you then.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Fri May 16, 2008 11:15 pm

Good evening, finally I can join had to friendly ask some people to leave the house...
I am sipping the FO 15, what cask is used for this whisky?
Smelling some vanilla with spices then the fresh cut pencil keeps coming back, but in a friendly way though.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Fri May 16, 2008 11:30 pm

I'm suprised people are picking up sherry notes but I don't. There is not much sweetness in the fo15, I would say refill bourbon cask.
If also sherry is used it won't be a lot. I wonder what is on the Mac site:
The Macallan Fine Oak is triple cask matured in a unique, complex combination of exceptional oak casks;

1. European oak casks seasoned with sherry impart a rich character with hints of dried fruits, spice and chocolate orange.

2. American oak casks seasoned with sherry deliver delicate hints of citrus lemon, coconut and toffee sweetness.

3. American oak casks seasoned with bourbon deliver floral aromas and sweet notes of vanilla and fresh fruits.

This triple cask combination delivers an extraordinarily smooth, delicate yet complex Single Malt matured at The Macallan distillery for a minimum of 15 years.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Fri May 16, 2008 11:38 pm

That's me back. I have a miniature of 10 YO Macallan sherry oak which I bought back in 98 or 99. The tastes have all been commented on earlier - namely sherry and oranges. It is very juicy and smooth and a touch of wood at the edges of the mouth reveal age greater than 10 years (perhaps). So much more smooth than current bottlings of the 10 yo. A real treat. Unusually the stopper in the bottle is a miniature cork just like in a full size bottle.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Fri May 16, 2008 11:49 pm

I also have a miniature of the 18 yo distilled in 1976, 43% vol, OB.

Colour - deeper than the 10 yo
Nose - More woody, dense, closed. Christmas pudding. Big whisky.
Taste - Wood, then sherried sweetness, dry, spicy
Finish - Smooth, spices. A heavier and deeper feel than the 10 yo.
Comment - Out of the 10 and the 18 yo, I think I prefer the 10 - but these were bought back in 98/99 and the current bottlings are likely to be very different.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Fri May 16, 2008 11:53 pm

CS10 58,8%:
dark brown color, nose: oloroso sherry, not so rough on the nose as a GF105, maybe there is more vanille in here? Raisins and walnuts!
taste: for the strenght this is a remarkable easy drink. More sweet than dry
comment: a brilliant whisky.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Fri May 16, 2008 11:56 pm

My third and last Macallan whisky is very different from the 10 yo and 18 yo sherry versions - it is Old Malt Cask 50% abv, 13 years, Nov 93, bottled June 2007, Rum finish barrel (a finish rather than fully matured), cask 3704, no colouring or chill filtration.

I'll be back when I've thought about it.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat May 17, 2008 12:12 am

OMC 13 yo rum finish

Colour - lighter than the sherried versions
Nose - floral, sweet, touch spirity (probably the strength)
Taste - Juicy, light, some spice, sweetness
Finish - A continuation of the taste - very good
Comment - Although this is totally different from the sherried versions, it is very enjoyable. Seems like a different distillery. Good with or without water. Water rounds it off slightly.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat May 17, 2008 12:18 am

Hi Nick

Good to see you back.

I'm going to follow Willie's lead and have another dram (OMC 13 yo) before I sign off.

Once again, I've enjoyed taking part and a big thank you to Ganga and co for the efforts put in to organise tonight's tasting.

Cheers
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat May 17, 2008 12:30 am

Hi Willie

I certainly could be here for a few more hours as I'm really enjoying this dram.

But I've got to get some sleep now.

Cheers everyone and good night
DFI

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat May 17, 2008 12:33 am

Hi everybody.

Finally got home. I have the 12, NAS CS and a 1974 whose authenticity may be suspect. (Bought it on eBay many moons ago...)

See everybody soon.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat May 17, 2008 12:40 am

Was ready much earlier. Have been reading the posts during work. Lucky my computer monitor is facing away from the office door... :P

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat May 17, 2008 12:41 am

Ganga wrote:I'm here! :D Interview went well. How well, we'll find out in the next two weeks.


Excellent news. We'll keep our fingers crossed. :thumbsup:

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat May 17, 2008 12:47 am

Willie JJ wrote:
Sherried Malt wrote:Have been reading the posts during work. Lucky my computer monitor is facing away from the office door... :P


I just keep my office door locked. :)


My door locks but the bolt/latch doesn't line up with the hole.

No wise comments please! :oops:

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat May 17, 2008 12:48 am

Macallan 12

Nose: Not as prominently sherried as I would have imagined. Sweetness, yes with just a touch of sherry.

Palate: Light on the palate. Don't get the sense of oiliness others have picked out... Nice hit of sweetness on the initial attack, which fades surprisingly quickly and then moves on to the finish...

Finish: Dry with some astringency and bitterness. Spicy with a bit of nutmeg.

Overall: Nice drink. May be even very nice depending on my mood that day... Not sure I'd be happy with this as my everyday dram tho.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat May 17, 2008 12:48 am

The spider diagram on the Macallan site is peaking on spicey, dried fruits and vanilla. Nice to see that someone else also tastes vanilla.
I keep picking up the walnuts... Johnny Guitar where are you when we need you?
Raisins, later more an old building smell. Coffee, chocolate, mocca, tea after some time you get the whole spectrum. Now tobacco,... figs. I have to stop nobody will believe this.
Comment: If you see the 58.8% CS 10yo buy it!

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat May 17, 2008 12:54 am

Ganga wrote:
Ras Mazunga wrote:The spider diagram on the Macallan site is peaking on spicey, dried fruits and vanilla. Nice to see that someone else also tastes vanilla.
I keep picking up the walnuts... Johnny Guitar where are you when we need you?
Raisins, later more an old building smell. Coffee, chocolate, mocca, tea after some time you get the whole spectrum. Now tobacco,... figs. I have to stop nobody will believe this.
Comment: If you see the 58.8% CS 10yo buy it!


If recollection serves me, there are at least two 58.8 CS released to the US. One in the older style and one in the newer style. I think they were release 4/5 years apart.


My CS is 57.8% but I love the nose! More later.

Am being summoned for dinner and an episode of House. Will be back.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat May 17, 2008 1:01 am

Having Roquefort with the whiskies. A very nice combi especially with the sherried CS.

Ganga:
The one I am drinking is the 10 years old version. As far as I know the nas is sold in the US only and this one isn't.

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby sampaiocaleia » Sat May 17, 2008 1:06 am

My Macallan is "cask Strength", but yesterday the Macallan Fifties that I've tasting is very good (see: http://thewhiskyscapesociety.blogspot.c ... fties.html)

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Sat May 17, 2008 1:11 am

Willie !!!!!!!!!!! Still going strong I see! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Sat May 17, 2008 1:19 am

Cheers Guys!! :D :D

Kicking the night off with

Macallan 12yo ( 43%, Original Bottling )


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