The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:10 pm

FR10: suddenly I smell coffee
SB15: fresh cut wood, bourbon, almomst like bourbon..., taste like burnt oak with grapes in the back :x
DW12: lots of sherry and wood, strong Jasmin tea
S12:More interesting than the 12DW, more complex? Malt isn't overwhelmed

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:12 pm

Hi everyone, I am back at long last! Have been waiting patiently in the hotel lobby for a free pc.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:12 pm

I'm being dragged off to dinner by my lovely wife but as I was leaving, I got a huge blast of bananas in the remnants of the DW glass. A bit of caramel too. Still very very light...

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:14 pm

Willie, what's Bazooka Joe?

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:15 pm

Welcome back, David. How was the floating cocktail bar in the pool?

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:16 pm

See everybody after dinner. Let's hope the restaurant can get everyone's order out quickly since we're going out so unfashionably early!

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:19 pm

I've arrived.

Cheated slightly as I started last night with the FR so I'll be leaving that tonight.
Here is my line up for this evening.

12 Signature
15 Cask 11395 bot.16.02.06 dis 23.07.90 Bottle No 16.
1991 Port Wood
21 yo Port wood.

Nick you have nearly tempted me to open my Rum wood and Roasted Malt, luckily they are in my 2year olds room and I don't want to wake her up.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:23 pm

Willie JJ wrote:C'mon Treacle am I really that much older than you? It's bubblegum.

Sorry Willie, my parents said I'd get buck teeth if I blew gum, so I've had a very sheltered childhood :( The only bubble gum I know is Hubba Bubba and those hard ones at the bottom of Screwballs, never heard of your Bazooka Joe.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:24 pm

My nose is not what it should be - can I move to have these tastings at 9am when its at it's best.


12 is yummy but it's still a shame they are taking away the FR.
more refined then the DW. oily?

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:29 pm

I have to admit that my desert island Malt is PortWood 21. As has been said previously, this one could be enjoyed at ANY TIME!

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:34 pm

That's me done, I'm off on my way.

Still undecided between whether I like 15 or 21 best. 15 was so bold and different after the 12s, but I also liked the wineyness of the 21. I'll just have to try them another time to decide :)

Enjoy the rest of your tasting.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:35 pm

The 15 is truly superb.

It would be nice however if they gave the barrel details.

is anyone on here doing the 17yo range (not of the 15's :-))

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:36 pm

BARREL DETAILS SHOULD BE ON THE LABEL. WHAT OTHER DETAUILS HAVE YOU IN MIND?

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:37 pm

Im now moving on to the '91 PW which from memory Ive enjoyed more the 21. Now Matt has kindly sent me a sample I can finally revisit this!

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:38 pm

I agree, on this moment I think the 15 is the best.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:39 pm

[quote="David22"]BARREL DETAILS SHOULD BE ON THE LABEL. WHAT OTHER DETAUILS HAVE YOU IN MIND?[/quote]


Hi David - thanks for doing this here tonight!

I'm thinking Sherry or bourbon, first or second fill hogshead barel etc.

Now someone will come on and say I should be able to work it out:-) Sorry.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:43 pm

My label is misprinted, can't read the barrel details, somebody else can?
Talking about a sample of course.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:44 pm

SINGLE BARREL - NEARLY ALWAYS SECOND FILL USA BARRELS. HAVE NOT USED EUROPEAN CASKS SO FAR.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:47 pm

Going H2H with the 2 PW's now and what a difference in the nose.

The 21 is so much more powerful.
I suppose the '91 is only Extra Matured in Port casks?
is the 21 wholly matured in Port?

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:48 pm

ABSOLUTELY - COULD BE OLDER THAN 15. A BARGAIN! ANYONE REMEMBER SINGLE BARREL 25?! YUM!

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:51 pm

BOTH PORTWOODS ARE FINISHES ONLY. WHAT WE DONT WANT IS A PORT FLAVOURED BALVENIE! THE USUAL FINISH PERIOD IS BETWEEN 4 TO 6 MONTHS AFTER THE MAIN FULL PERIOD OF MATURATION IN TRADITIONAL CASKS.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:52 pm

The influence is a lot stronger on the older than.

Perhaps as the '91 still had so much of its own character?

how old is the '91 btw?

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:54 pm

13 YRS OLD I SEEMS TO RECALL.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:56 pm

Thanks David

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:58 pm

PORTWOOD 21 HAS HAD SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER TO PICK UP CASK FLAVOURS. IT IS VERY DIFFERENT AS YOU KNOW. THE YOUNGER PORTWOODS WHILE GOOD, HAVE LESS OAKY NOTES IN COMPARISON. MAYBE YOU THINK WE COULD HAVE THEM SPEND LONGER FINISHING? HOWEVER, PORT FLAVOUR ISNT WHAT WE WANT. WHAT IS WANTED IS A HINT OF AN ALTERNATIVE FRUITINESS TO ADD COMPLEXITY.

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:01 am

I think I was trying to suggest Willies second opinion.

David whatever the case they have done a fine job on both!

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:04 am

Well everyone, I have to climb the stairs of the hotel tonight - some kids have managed to cause the lift to malfunction! Oh well, may be I will call in to the bar for that energising Balvenie night cap! Which one should it be?! After all your comments - wonderful they are - I will have to make a decision! Should it be Single Barrel (I wonder which cask it is from - I have had some intriguingly smokey SBs) or PortWood? Hmmmmm - please help me make my decision now!

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:08 am

I also am a great banana fan. They feature big time with some blends. Banana is just lightly seens in Balvenie, in my opinion

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:09 am

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:13 am

My opinion is that the Port Pipe finish has a fairly noticeable effect on the 21. The oakiness combines well with the Portiness. The younger PortWoods are of course less smooth which may detract from any portiness. Sorry if this sounds waffly!

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:15 am

I think thats what we are finding, but I have just poured myself another '91 just to make sure...
Purely in the interests of research you will understand!

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:15 am

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:18 am

Thanks David.

Don't go being a stranger now.

Stick around!

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:20 am

Thanks very much everyone. I have really enjoyed chatting tonight. Was worried that I would manage it atall on this occasion. Take care, drink sensibly and enjoy!
Keep in touch if you can,
Very best wishes,
David

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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:21 am

Strange that.

Matt didnt send us a sample of that 191 stuff?

He should have done :iwbrnt:


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