August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby dramtastic » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:33 pm

2013?

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby dramtastic » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:41 pm

Well we all know Sean comes from alien stock so maybe a 2 year gestation is normal for his kind.

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby dramtastic » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:56 pm

Ganga wrote:How long before you participate Dram? You've gotta be able to add at least one to the mix.


Fathers Day here, so heading off for a family bbq breakfast in about 30 mins, won't be back home for another 4-5 hours.
And yeh I have one......

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby johan brugge » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:48 pm

Glentauchers 35yo 1973 TWA.

Nose: Very soft, very sweet with lots of fresh fruit. A little bit of varnish and beeswax but nothing negative. It becomes a little sour after a while. With water: ripe bananas.

Palate: again lots of fresh sweet fruit. It's a terribly soft whisky with a firm body. It's almost oily-like. It goes down very easily, even at 50% vol. With water: peppery, but the rest stays the same. I actually liked it better without water.

Finish: long and sweet.

I let this one 'breath' for at least 30 minutes and it became much better.

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby johan brugge » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:53 pm

Hi Willie. It's been a while already, huh?

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby dramtastic » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:03 am

Suntory Gold Blended Malt. 42 per cent alcohol.
Nose: Not great. A little sherry and oak. Label says it is fully matured in Sherry casks. Doesn't taste like it. Also, plasticine, glue and cheap brandy.
Palate: A little better than the nose--bread dough, some lime and tangerine. Then ruined again by the plasticine and glue.
Finish: Bitter, with plasticine and, thankfully, short.

62/100

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby dramtastic » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:23 am

Montgomerie's Clynelish Single Cask #2566 1974 32YO 43%

Nose: Tinned pears, varnish, peat, soap flakes, a little floral, vanilla, fresh cut timber

Palate: Big on sweet spices which makes this one feel like a more potent whisky than 43% would suggest. Some grapefruit to balance the sweetness, more timber, some ash/smoke, pear again. Third sip brings out pepper and macadamias.

Finish is medium and bitter/sweet with some ashy dryness thrown in along with peppered macadamias.

Overall quite tasty and fairly lively for 32 years old.

85/100
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby dramtastic » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:31 am

Kyowa Hakko Kogyo Diamond Pure Malt Whisky 43%
Think they still might make sake but not whisky for a few decades.

Nose: Red apples, sawdust, malt, sugared grapefruit, vanilla, biscuity, scotch-like.

Palate: Chunky malt, vanilla, fruit jubes, a little oily.

Finish: Short, malty, sweet and oily

Solid whisky with no peaks or troughs

80/100

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby The Third Dram » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:05 am

OK gents, I'm late into the fray here. But hopefully, I can make up for lost time. :wink:

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby The Third Dram » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:06 am

Rare Malts Selection Mortlach 22 Year Old, Distilled 1972 (65.3%ABV)
Undiluted: Sweet coconut pie and toffee on the nose. Baked apples, too. Syrupy malt sweetness and heat on the palate. Drier oak notes then infiltrate. Becomes buttery as the fireplace flames subside. With a drop of water: Much the same fragrance, but now with Highland grasses and floral nuances also apparent. The oak induced maturity comes to the fore a little more. Beautifully balanced on the palate. Spicy, even a tad peppery, and yet still that pervasive malt sweetness prevails, just. There's evidently a savvy combination of first-fill and second-fill oak, both European and American, at work here, for no single wood aspect takes prominence over the whisky itself. One to relish, for sure.

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby The Third Dram » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:06 am

Rare Malts Selection Brora 21 Year Old, Distilled 1977 (56.9%ABV)
Undiluted: Quite restrained on the nose as the alcohol somewhat masks lurking scents of seaside wharves and diesel fumes. Explosively dry palate entry that rasps the tongue with sensations of coal embers, paraffin and, strangely enough, floral extracts. With a drop of water: There's that semi-sweet waxy tone one looks for that's evocative of a weird mixture of Highland fields in the spring and factories. Demure notions of honey soften the edginess. Oh what a taste! It's as though the spirit were operating on so many different levels in rapid fire succession. From one moment to the next, it's light and delicate, then deep and brooding. Lots of that uniquely Brora smokiness to shoot things into the stratosphere, followed by wave after wave of dune vegetation and pear fruit. Even the pears arrive slightly smoked, though. Brilliant whisky.

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby The Third Dram » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:07 am

Clan Denny North British 30 Year Old Single Cask Grain, Distilled 1979 (54.2%ABV, from a refill butt)
Undiluted: A rather plump aroma. Certainly vanilla cream and corn syrup heavy, but also with a very faint whiff of urban exhaust in the background. Intriguing, to say the least. Nice bittersweet hit in the mouth at the outset, with the high alcohol heat playing off the sweet grain. Spicy. Orange zest. Roasted Brazil nuts. With a drop of water: The fragrance opens up beautifully as tropical fruits, flowers (buttercups!) and nut oils all emerge. Round and soothing on the palate, with a ½-and-½ oily-buttery texture providing a backdrop for flavours of ginger, cardamom, coconut meat, citrus and simple syrup. A touch of mint alongside Jalapeños at the finish, perhaps. Pretty frisky for its age.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby The Third Dram » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:08 am

Schenley 15 Year Old Order of Merit, Placed in charred oak casks in October 1952 and Bottled in October 1967 (no alcohol level stated, though one could reasonably assume it's bottled at 40%ABV)
As it poured: Essence of orange and peaches on the nose along with scents of honey and oak. Very composed. Seemingly delicate on the palate to start, then gradually broadening into a tapestry of ripe orchard fruits dribbled with honey. The oak is soft yet lingering, and weaves its filaments between the grains without in any way obscuring the subtle progression of flavours. I'm not sure anyone makes whisky like this anymore. And I'm not entirely sure that there are enough people out there these days to appreciate what a whisky such as this has to offer. Perhaps John K. Hall at Forty Creek is closest on the road to achieving a similar compromise between character, charisma and nuance in his whiskies. Goodness knows, his Confederation Oak Reserve, though in a more intense vein, comes close.

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby The Third Dram » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:09 am

A.H. Hirsch 16 Year Old Reserve, Distilled in the Spring of 1974 at the Michter's Distillery in Pennsylvania (45.8%ABV)
(This is a subsequent Preiss Importers release with the maroon and gold foil capsule. Would that I had access to the original wax-coated release!)
As it poured: All things sweet on the nose... Toffee, caramelized apples, honey and maple syrup, but with strands of oak and char also apparent. Nice weight on the palate. Dense and yet simultaneously with a 'dancing' quality about it. The oak is now more to the fore. Sultana biscuits and apples lead toward orange zest and baking spices. With the merest drop of water: A more honeyed fragrance as golden raisins spring forth from the glass and the charred oak takes a step or two back. In the mouth, that finely delineated balance between lushness and litheness remains. At the end, though, the oak impacts a little harder. This is a classic American. But, that said, it's not at the very top of my ladder. And it's that extra iota of oaky dryness that swings the pendulum for me.

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby The Third Dram » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:14 am

Time to get back to some more contemporary stuff now. :thumbsup:

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby The Third Dram » Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:23 am

Yes, that's the order I tasted them in, Sean. And no, the relative alcohol levels weren't a factor at all. I did take a one or two minute break between the Scotches and the North American whiskies though, and also cleansed my palate with water right along.

The Brora is a great whisky. :thumbsup:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Fscott » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:52 pm

Too poor for pre 80s, too hot to drink whisky in summer where I am. (I could post my '71 Macallan for the third time, but...) What's going on for September? I would love to get back into the game.

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Fscott » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:23 pm

I don't know if this would be too limiting, but what about whisky bought at a duty free shop? Not only could this include expressions exclusive to travel retail, but also any bottle purchased at duty free. Don't HP, Macallan, and Laphroaig have several bottles only available at duty free? We could also include a little background on where we were going/coming from.

Yes, OK, the last bottle I bought was at duty free.

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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Novice Scotch Fan » Tue May 08, 2012 1:57 am

Willie JJ wrote:
Ganga wrote: I've been told the older White Horse blends included Lagavulin.

No doubt about that. Probably until fairly recently I would have thought


I think Lagavulin is still a component. I just acquired a bottle in North Carolina and it says on the back label that Lagavulin is in the blend.


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