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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:54 pm

Ooh, your Ridgemont Reserve sounds interesting, Ganga. I'll look out for that.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:55 pm

They all definitely have a lot in common Nick. But then to me, so too do grain whiskies - at least Scotch grain.

Right. Three down, with probably just one to go (GTS 2007, no less...), but I also have samples of Georgia Moon and Old Overholt. Do they count?

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:11 pm

Woodford Reserve now - thanks, Willie.

Woodford Reserve Kentucky Derby 133

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Woodford Reserve Kentucky Derby 133
Initially quite closed except for tons of vanilla. A little grapefruit lurking in the background. Restrained smell of emulsion paint. It opens up with time, showing plenty of apples and grapes and eventually marzipan.
Amongst the usual bourbon descriptors there is cereal (Shredded Wheat) and fresh fruit (white grapes) and lots of whole almonds. How interesting! It's worth leaving to stand to be able to savour this.
Smooth and warm. Buttered toast and sugared almonds.
I wasn't expecting anything so lovely from a WR, as I went off the Distiller's Select some time ago. This is one to explore, I really enjoyed the taste.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:22 pm

You're very welcome, C57 :thumbsup:

Sometimes with bourbons I suffer that vanilla-oak-orange-spice bourbon fatigue that you almost hit on, and everything tastes the same. I don't know if it just depends on how my palate is playing on the day - sometimes I get the same with very sherried malts. Time in the glass seems to help with the bourbons tho.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:23 pm

Ooh snap, I'm just tasting Old Fitz 12 Ganga :)

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:32 pm

Haha, I would never accuse you of stealing my notes, C57! It reassures me when I see you've found the same flavours :)

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:43 pm

Last one for tonight...

Old Fitzgerald 12 yo

Old Fitzgerlad
Very Special Old Fitzgerald
Immediately a swift whiff of glue and cucumber. Is that right? Perhaps I'm broken ...OK, now I've left it to stand a while and it's more what I'd expect. Or probably more likely, my nose is working again! There we go, honey, mixed fruits, brazil nuts.
Quite resinous. Bitter dark chocolate, coffee and chilli. As it develops, liquorice and damp rolling tobacco
Gets herby like lemon thyme then perfectly bitter and drying. Cinnamon sticks. Also something medicinal like toothache remedies (oil of cloves).
This is lovely. Big bittersweet flavours enveloping me like a big warm blanket.
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Mmm, a good end-of-the-night drink.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:55 pm

Ganga wrote:OF 12 is really nice isn't it TS? :)

Yep, I really enjoyed that :D It was a nice contrast after so many sweet drinks too - it seemed to have fewer of those sugary notes (toffee/fudge/caramel/maple syrup etc) that so many of the others have had.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:56 pm

Hello fellow bourbon drinkers. :)

Starting with EC12:
n: vanilla, caramel, toffee, rye, wax, chocolate, after the corn and rye more malty tastes seem to emerge
t: vanilla, oranges, tea
f: woody oranges
c: nice to smell how the nose develops. there is just enough rye in this one to restrain the sweets but not to much to let the rye come out to much

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:57 pm

Evening Ras!

George T. Stagg 2007 (72.4%)

Nose: Marzipan and nuts. Fruitcake, rum 'n' raisin chocolate. Hints of wood polish and antiseptic cream. A little citrussy (mainly lemon). Mentholated. Coffee-flavoured chocolate liqueurs. Water creates a slightly dusty profile but also something akin to Cherry Bakewell tarts (the iced ones), Bounty bars (coconut-centred chocolate bars) and basil leaves.

Palate: Drying! And too hot at full strength to hold in the mouth for more than a few seconds, but I do get notes of rum 'n' raisin. Water needed, methinks... Water calms it down a lot and makes it very velvety, indeed revealing rum 'n' raisin and also a little menthol.

Finish: Sweet and mentholated. Marzipan. Water cools it somewhat but doesn't reveal anything extra.


The neat nose is absolutely astounding, but I just cannot drink this undiluted - it's too hot! Water makes it incredibly soft and, dare I say it, drinkable, but it's still quite hot in the mouth. This is an astonishing whiskey and, were it not for the ridiculous price it goes for in the UK, one I'd have in my cabinet at all times - with a water jug at its side, of course!

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:57 pm

Hi Ras!

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:03 am

Well that's me done, I'm off. Thanks all for the company, I've enjoyed it. I look forward to returning tomorrow with some more, and looking through the rest of the notes here :thumbsup: G'night!

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:11 am

EC 18
n: hmmm, like old Longmorn. christmas cake, oranges, wood, beeswax, chocolate, paint, vanilla,
t: oranges with mint and chocolate
f: taste lingers on, oranges become marmelade
c: nose is great, after that thing go down

Bye Treacle, thanks for your notes and samples of course.

Nick, the rye came from me. You came to the same conclusion as me: rye smells and tastes like rye. I'm not sure if I can get used to it.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:33 am

Old Overholt straight rye whiskey 40% 4yo
n: rye, apples, raisins, camenbert
t: rye, more rye, raisins
f: short with rye
c: more interesting than I remembered

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:45 am

Knob Creek 9yo 50%(MikeyMad)
n: rye, vanilla, fruits,
t: strong with its 50%, weetabix, pear
f: marmelade
c: tasting a lot of rye, probably because of the rye whiskey I had before this one

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:58 am

Jack Daniel single barrel 45% 8-1176 (TheTross)
n: acetone, very clean, glue, getting flashback here to the days when I was glueing model planes together. vanilla, almonds, white wine(Pinot Grigio)
t: rye, liquorice, sugar candy, rosewater
f: citrus, middle long
c: forget about the regular JD, skip Gentleman Jack and continue directly to single barrel.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:07 am

Yes, JD SB is very good isn't it Ras?

Currently on Old Overholt - notes to follow shortly...

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:18 am

Old Overholt 4yo (40%)

Nose: Stewed apples, hints of vanilla essence, yeast. Citrus (orange and lemon). Quite creamy. Cheese of some description - possibly creamy blue Stilton, though Ras' note of Camembert might be more accurate.

Palate: Ah, so that's what rye tastes like! Reminds me of Cool-flavoured Doritos chips - even though I know they're made from corn. Quite a dry taste, actually.

Finish: Rye!! A little vanilla and possibly cheese and stewed apple again.


Not sure if I like rye whiskey or not judging from this. The nose was nice enough, but the palate was far too simple. Still, it was a privilege to taste it - thanks very much Ras!

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:29 am

Virginia Gentleman 45%
small batch bourbon produced by A. Smith Bowman Distillery
n: vanilla, toffee, oranges
t: butterscotch, oranges
f: oranges
c: somehow I like this one a lot. amazing value.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:40 am

The JD is indeed very nice Stuart.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:24 am

Right, that's me done for the night. I still have a sample of Georgia Moon to do notes for but I'm afraid I'm suffering from palate fatigue, so will do notes for that in a few days. Must say I've enjoyed this bourbon tasting, opened my eyes a little :)

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:56 am

Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10yo 45%
n: wet dog, suddenly easy to link this to rye. sawdust, getting creamy, chocolate, pine tree, whiff of eggs
t: maybe a bit thin, lemon, candy
f: lemon...
c: nose is great,

Getting tired, more tomorrow

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:11 am

Sipping some Old Fitgerald Very Special 12yo and this one is truely special. Thank you for this one too Treaclesponge.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Wave » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:44 am

Thought I'd come and join in the fun.

Noah's Mill 15yo Bourbon 57.15% ABV

N: Heavy Bourbon notes, dark chocolate, new sawdust
P: Thick and mouth-coating, actually chewy! Honey and heavily candied fruits
F:Long with a satisfying late internal explosion of warmth. Quite smooth for a cask strength.

One of the best Bourbons I've tasted in a long time,
this beats out Stagg!

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby sspolv » Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:15 am

Ridgemont Reserve 1792

Nose: Very prominent alcohol smell that tingles the nose. Vanilla, new wood, and maybe citrus. I dunno, I'm not so great at nosing.

Palate: Vanilla and cherry. Kinda reminded me of a cherry cough syrup on the first sip, but not necessarily in a bad way. Very warm alcohol burn. It looked to be quite syrupy due to the lacing on the side of the glass, but I was pleasantly surprised that it was thinner than expected. Didn't think it was too coating.

Finish: Warm, very warm. The alcohol kinda overpowered me. Further tasting makes it a mellow, woody taste.

Woo, first review. I'm sure there's a significant amount I'm missing here, but my palate really isn't developed at all. I dunno how you guys pick out all this stuff. Hopefully with time I'll get to be half as good as most of the reviewers in here.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:25 pm

Buffalo Trace it is here too:
n: densed, wood, lots of wood, also rose wood, mud, earth and a lot of other dirt(old bananas maybe), shoe polish, a whiff of smoke smoke.
t: oranges, kiwis, cheescake, wood
f: oranges,
c: poured the glass 30 minutes before nosing, that explains the heavy wood maybe. this is a good one for Islay lovers.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:47 pm

Woodford Reserve 45.2% Kentucky Derby 133 from the oldest working distillery in Kentucky.
n: vanilla, beeswax, honey, praline, creme brulee, all very smooth, I think I smell horses,... :roll:
t: beeswax, creme brulee, leather, nice mouthfeel
f: oranges, leather
c: very, very nice bourbon. best sofar this tasting.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:51 pm

Collector57 wrote:Georgia Moon 40% Kentucky corn whiskey <30 days old (not sure who sent me this - Ras maybe?

Nose: Not promising. A rancid kind of a smell I'm afraid. You can smell the corn through it, but that's about all.

Palate: Hm, just about as rancid as the nose. I didn't take a big enough mouthful to get more than the rancid corn. Thanks goodness I wasn't brave enough.

Finish: Fortunately not enough to get an idea of the finish

I'm discarding this glass and getting a fresh one out. I don't think a rinse will be enough....


Lovevely isn't it, it remind me of bio-ethanol. :mrgreen:

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby LagaDrinker » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:15 pm

Georgia Moon 40% Kentucky Corn Whisky <30 days old

N: Sweetness, fish, brine, cereal

T:Bitter, mouth filling, hot cereal, slightly minted

F: Short, dry, slighly cereal like, more dryness, leading to a lingering fish taste.

This is a very strange whisky and not really one that I like, no pleasant smells or tastes really. Probably the worst whisky that I have had.

3/10

Thanks Raz Maszunga for the sample

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby LagaDrinker » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:20 pm

Old Overholt Rye Whiskey 40% 4YO

N: Warm toffee, wood, mahogany, cinnamon spices, oranges, old leather.

T: Instant rich warm spices, very distinct full rye flavour, smoke, tobacco, oranges.

F: Fresh citrus orange, sweet tobacco lingers on.

A lovely rye whiskey - the second I have tried. I really like them, this one is excellent although not as good as the Old Rip Van Winkle that I tried at Whisky Live.

8.5/10

Once again, thank you to Raz Mazunga

I have 5 more to try but need to go to bed as I am in agony after my race today - will post more later this week. :thumbsup:

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:36 pm

Good evening Ras, Willie, Nick (& anyone else)

I'm just going to pour a few drams and let them breathe. Where did the weekend go? I'll get ready for work tomorrow and be back in 20 mins.

Cheers
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:04 pm

I had a feeling you were going to like it Willie.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:18 pm

Elijah Craig 12yo 47% - many thanks to Treacle Sponge (TS)

Nose Fruity, jam like, vanilla, slightly 'dense', sweet, very gentle and enticing indeed

Taste Jam, sugary, heavy/thick, juicy

Finish Medium length, tingly, then smooth

Comment Easy drinking, very enjoyable, delightful, I am in a good mood! Like an alcohol version of a barley sugar sweetie, yum yum.

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:31 pm

Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10 yo 45% - thanks again TS

Nose Rather sweet, medium weight, easy, no nose prickle, maple syrup, honey, marmalade (took a while for the orange marmalade to reveal itself, well to me at least)

Taste Bitter, orange marmalade

Finish Medium length, satisfying, gentle tingling

Comment Very enjoyable, easy drinking and enough to think about at the same time, this one could also be dangerous

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Dram fine idea » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:58 pm

Woodford Reserve Kentucky Derby 133 45.2% - thanks to Willie

Nose Fruit, jam, vanilla, leather and almonds

Taste Smooth, gentle, fruit explosion, almonds, vanilla dryness creeps in, leather, then juicy and a menthol/minty note as well

Finish Medium to long, cough medicine?, menthol/mint, almonds, liquorice and leather

Comment This has really good depth and is more complex, superb!


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