this poll was fundamentally flawed to begin with. I am a very subjective person asking other people's opinions on a very subjective topic. The question was an attempt at a title and subtitle (such as The Trustworthiness of Ale: Perspectives on the Nature of Beer)
See, I recognize that while for me smoke and peat are highly desirable, I can conceive of a drink where there is "too much of a good thing" and I won't care for it (although I have yet to find such a drink ) So the danger in simply asking "which one has the most" I might end up with a bottle I don't care for when I could have had a much better malt (still with enough smoke and peat for me) but not with so much power that it destroys my taste buds.
Hence the overly long and ambiguous question which has led to this less then scientific poll (which, truth be told, was never my intention in the first place )
It all comes down to this:
My book by Jim Murray give the Very Young a 91 and the Uigeadail an 89 (and the 10yo a 93). My Michael Jackson book gives the Uigeadail a 92 and the 10yo an 85 (no mention of the Very Young here).
In the past I have found that I tend to side with Murray's opinion more often then Jackson's. However, there are those times when I STRONGLY disagree with Murray only to turn and find myself in close proximity to Jackson's notes.
So Ardbeg Uigeadail or Very Young almost seems like a coin flip. I will probably like both. I will also probably like one more then the other. I could just buy one and live in ignorance. Or I could ask you guys for your various opinions (for which I have been very grateful in the past) and then make my best guess.
The way things are going it looks like the Uigeadail is going to be the winner. But I might be able to swing things to where I can eat my cake and have it also
Thanks for all the input guys
Ratings like Murray's and Jackson's are always interesting, but it makes no sense to me to expect your own tastes and preferences to coincide with either of theirs. Each is but one man's opinion, which isn't likely to be entirely consistent in the first place; trying to parse out a difference of two points, or even ten, is a fruitless exercise, and ultimately you must taste for yourself. Nick, who reports using Murray quite faithfully to guide his purchases, also very happily notes that he is fond of Fettercairn, which Murray rates a 69! And anyway, part of the joy of all this, for me, anyway, is trying as many different things as I can, rather than trying to narrow it down to the one I will like best. One's budget is always a limitation, but time is on your side; except for limited bottlings, you will, with some patience, get to try a lot of different things, if you don't elect to drown yourself in a few favorites. But yes, the question is always "What next?", and a little blether here, prompted by an ambiguous poll, is not a bad thing. Come to think of it, it's why we're all here.
Uigeadail. No, wait, Very Young....
Admiral wrote:In answer to the question, "What is the peatiest, smokiest Ardbeg", then there is little doubt in my mind that the Very Young is the peatiest by a long, long shot. My first reaction when I tasted it was, "This is brutal!"
However, it isn't the most enjoyable Ardbeg, because it is still very green and young, and the complexities of age haven't yet kicked in. This is why the Uigedail, 10yo, and 1977 are better whiskies.
This post smells true. I consider any Ardie I've had to be exceptional, but I'm in no hurry to buy the AVY due to it's youth. It'll grow up with time...
am I to understand you correctly?
You purchased BOTH Uigeadail and the 10yo Ardbeg from the Seattle area????
Cause I am only aware of one store that even orders Ardbeg (Queen Ann) and they only seem to be aware of the existance of the 10yo (despite my best attempts to educate them )
I was told that if there "was such a drink as the Uigeadail" and it was available in the US then they could special order it but I would have to buy a case of 6.
Needless to say my current quest for either the Uigeadail or the Very Young is on hold . . . for the moment.
I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to obtain ANY Ardbeg here in the Seattle area as of late (luckily I still have half of a bottle of Ardbeg 10yo to tide me over).
However, my roommate, who is spending the holiday with family in St. Louis (and is painfully aware of my whisky obsession) just called to tell me that he stopped in at a local liquor store and pick me up a bottle of the Uigeadail. Man what a great friend
So it looks like I am taking the advice from this forum (which also happens to be the only one of the two I have been able to lay hands on)
Thanks for the input
I've only tried the 10yo, but the Uigeadail is high on my list and I think I'll pick up a bottle this week.
FWIW, I inquired a number of sources and found that VYA is not imported into the US at this time, so your only prayer of getting some is to buy from a UK retailer and pay the big shipping costs, or go there and buy it yourself (although I don't know about Lawrence's Oregon connection, that might work out as well).
bamber wrote:JM's rating of the Uigedail puzzled me a bit and it remains 89 in his 2006 book, whist the 10 is promoted to 94 (I'd give it 95 ).
For me if you factor in the price £27 vs. £36 the Uigedail edges it but in a straight comparison it (the Uigedail) is far better IMO.
Did I write this I must have been drunk at the time. I don't even like the Uigedail very much. My least favourite Ardbeg.
The Uigeadail is the better whisky. Still challenging but sweet and smoky in equal measure. A longstanding entry in my top 5 malts. I'd choose this of the two if I were you.
VYA is getting pretty hard (or at least expensive) to get even in the UK. Still Young, the next stage of maturation has lost none of the peat or smoke and is a gorgeous dram. If you can't get Very Young, Still Young may be easier to get and will not disappoint.
Enjoy whatever you get
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