Scrubbing the Forums?

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby TUFKAC » Tue May 24, 2011 3:31 pm

There has been some scrubbing, last month my other account including posts (near 1000) were fully deleted during the spam cleanup, as it was considered spam (but it was admitted this was done in error and they were looking if they could reinstate them). Maybe topics that were rendered unreadable have been removed? While not removed viewtopic.php?t=11414 is an example of a "mutilated" topic.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:59 pm

Well, all my 5000+ posts appear to have been deleted, along with my old account.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:19 pm

It's been fine until sometime this morning.
I sent a message, with no response.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby johan brugge » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:36 pm

What's going on? A general clean up or is it more 'selective'?

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby johan brugge » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:28 pm

Ganga wrote:I think it has been selective. It seemed like a few posts were deleted back in May. Not sure what happened with Nick. Two things come to mind: malicious behaviour and a complaint (recall that Nick had informed an individual about selling wears on the site). Otherwise it is some strange thing in which an individual was wiped out. I remember Matt saying that there are backups so hopefully, Nick will be restored.

I can't imagine that Nick would do or say something to harm anyone or the forum. So I hope along with you that he will be restored. If not, it will only make more members switch forums and that would be a shame.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:38 pm

I shall wait and see.
But if I am to lose so many posts I will not feel particularly keen to keep contributing here (hurrah I hear you cry! :) )

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby johan brugge » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:46 pm

You and your expertise would most certainly be missed, Nick!!

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby Muskrat Portage » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:36 am

Odd, very odd. To see Nick as a new member. Hopefully your posts are retrieved as there was some exceptional advice and assistance in them.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby johan brugge » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:50 pm

Ganga wrote:Are you trying to say that it would all but "dry" up? :P

I've told you before, Rich. If that handfull loyal members who make the effort of frequently posting messages would stop doing so, this form would be braindead. Wouldn't that be a shame?

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:59 pm

Sometimes you don't get a choice Johan.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby johan brugge » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:05 pm

That may be so but I still don't understand the reason why. Already there seems to be less activity on the forum and chasing away loyal members will not do the forum any good IMHO.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:36 pm

I believe Rob's onto it now. But whether he can do anything is another question.
And it seems I'm not alone...

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:37 pm

No, at least one other long-term member whose contributions I respect, has vanished.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:12 pm

My current opinion is that this is a simple error Ganga.
I believe Rob will be able to recover it.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby dramtastic » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:39 am

C57 wrote:No, at least one other long-term member whose contributions I respect, has vanished.


Nah, I'm still here :P

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:47 am

I didn't say "all", Brian

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:51 am

C57 wrote:I didn't say "all", Brian


Should have added a :D

BTW, it's looking less likely to me that my posts can be recovered. Apparently when you delete a member, as well as confirming it's OK to do (to which someone obviously clicked Yes) there is also an option to remove all their posts (which was also obviously replied to affirmatively).
If you choose that option, which seems to be what has happened, you don't end up with a "Deactivated member", but just all trace disappears, with all posts.
they are unrecoverable, except from a backup - and if you restored a backup you would lose all posts since the backup.

So the longer it goes on, the less likely I will be reinstated because more and more of the recent posts would be lost in the process.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby les taylor » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:44 pm

Nick I'm sorry to hear of your situation after all the work you've put in it's a real shame. Do you remember some years ago you were waiting to congratulate me on reaching 5000 posts. Well I'm slowly getting back to it again. :|

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:37 pm

On any front it seems, Rich

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby johan brugge » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:08 pm

Willie JJ wrote:I think if a backup can be done it should be done. Better to recover Collector57 and lose a few recent posts than any other scenario.


+ 1

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby andyt » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:57 pm

All 4 it 2

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:18 pm

Scrub the forums of some spam too

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby dramtastic » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:15 pm

Willie JJ wrote:I think if a backup can be done it should be done. Better to recover Collector57 and lose a few recent posts than any other scenario.


If that would work than I'm more than happy for it to happen as well :iwbrnt:

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby bredman » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:59 am

All 4 1 and 1 4 all.

I'm still here. :P

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby TUFKAC » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:08 pm

C57, welcome to the club of "People of lost posts"

It is now over a month ago that people were trying to "fix" my posts & account, and until now NOTHING has happened. They knew what was the problem and why everything got deleted, but apparently the administrators have not learned anything.

A tip for the administrators, if a user is suspected of spam, it should be possible to hide all the posts, and afterwards be able to assess the damage and then delete. By just immediate deletion it is just irreversible and you end up with more problems. And yes, do backup.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby C57 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:19 pm

I was expecting to get some definitive news today, but no.
I suspect that they are not going to restore from backup though.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby bredman » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:13 am

Let me get this right, some one suspected Nick of posting spam and deleted his entire account and posts. That doesn't make sense.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby johan brugge » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:11 am

From what I understand we won't be reading Nick's posts here again, I'm afraid.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby TUFKAC » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:25 am

bredman wrote:Let me get this right, some one suspected Nick of posting spam and deleted his entire account and posts.

Nearly spot on...
Instead of someone it is something: some rules/scripts have been applied and branded everyone that fitted the profile a spammer and got rid of everything.

Ganga wrote:I doubt that. I was posing the scenario that someone trying to sell whisky reported Nick as being "not nice".
The information I got on dumping my account was that it was an error on their side and they were looking to fix it.

johan brugge wrote:From what I understand we won't be reading Nick's posts here again, I'm afraid.

Google cache and Wayback archive are at the moment the best chances to re-read the posts.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby johan brugge » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:34 am

TUFKAC wrote:Google cache and Wayback archive are at the moment the best chances to re-read the posts.

Thanks for the info because I value Nick's input a lot, but I meant that he won't be posting here anymore I think. He'll stick to whisky x 3.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby Rob Allanson » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:44 pm

Right apology time....

In a bid to clear and keep the forums clean of spam, you may all have notice that we were a particular target recently, we instructed one of the chaps here to monitor and get rid of it. Unfortunately there have been a couple of accounts deleted in the process and I am sorry this has happened.
I have been told there is no way to retrieve them form the system, so I apologise for this loss of excellent knowledge. The person has been told to triple check before hitting the delete button for accounts and posts and is sorry as well.
I personally don't think the forums are out of control, we have just had a hiccup trying to sort somethings out. Thanks for bearing with us.

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby dramtastic » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:32 am

Ganga wrote:
C57 wrote:Scrub the forums of some spam too

SCRUBBED :thumbsup:



Back :evil:

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Re: Scrubbing the Forums?

Postby johan brugge » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:11 pm

ECHO ... echo ... echo :mrgreen:


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