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treacle (this one I asked a British co-worker)
Since the tasters are likely of UK/European origin, maybe these are UK or Europe specific references that I've never heard, or possibly I'm just unworldy.
So I thought it might be a fun addition to include a little Translation box in the tasting notes section which could define any phrases that the editors deem to be UK-specific, and which might not be recognized elsewhere in the world that the magazine is sold.
P.S. This is meant to be a fun suggestion, and not at all meant to "Americanize" the magazine, so save those criticisms.
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pmullin wrote:You would need some awfully good "taste translators" that know how to convert UK culinary/nature reference to roughly equivalent flavours for other cultures/regions.
I was looking more for a description rather than a translation.
weetabix = a type of cereal
as opposed to:
weetabix = a type of cereal that smells/tastes like.....
Jobi wrote:Last night I was reading through the tasting notes in Whisky Mag when the thought occurred to me for the umpteenth time, "What the hell are they talking about?". Specifically, I mean the many references in the notes that mean absolutely nothing to me. Some examples:
treacle (this one I asked a British co-worker)
Poor you, missing out on treacle Of course a lot of the time British people say treacle and mean Golden Syrup. Especially in relation to hot puddings
If it helps any, gorse in mid-flower smells of very sweet coconut - like coconut shampoo. As it gets older through the summer the coconut smell fades to sort of almost vanilla for a short while.
Dubbin is waterproof bootpolish, but waxy so it has a kind of beeswax smell to it.
And victoria sponge...makes me think of victoria principal, but sadly i don't know what she noses or tastes like. why not have translations based on different genres of aroma...like, sexual, or bodily(cumin for example always smells of armpits to me)or even pictures, memories, and colours? I introduced a lively spanish painter to SMS one evening, and she beamed and started describing the COLOURS she was tasting!
I described the nose of a 1946 Macallan offered on a tasting some years back as "like playing in my grandmother's oak trunkfull of blankets as a boy...with added lemons."
I was once the lucky recipient of a 37 YO SMWS Longmorn they called a "Rasta Malt". i guessed it was because the malt was "deep and dark", and had "legs" like long dreadlockes...but a visit to the society, and a look at their official notes revealed that 2 of the tasters found "marijuana" on the nose!
Then again, as someone on this forum pointed out, the BEST tasting notes for this whisky came from my bass player, who took one sip and said "F*ck me! I think I'd better sit down!"
If only our famed reviewers would make it that simple!
P>S> I strongly advise everyone to NOT refer to their "honey" as "treacle!"
Reggaeblues wrote:Then again, as someone on this forum pointed out, the BEST tasting notes for this whisky came from my bass player, who took one sip and said "F*ck me! I think I'd better sit down!"
We bass players are a little like that.....
OK. "As We Get It 8 Years">(excerpts)
"Beware, this one has knuckles...At last some sanity...improbable honey...Ker-pow, zap, kaboom...Batman stuff for a good punch up on the tastebuds."
Well, that's verging on understandable! almost as explicit as me mate's "F*ck me!"
But then again..."Improbable honey?" Anyone ever seen that item for sale in the local farm shop? Is it made by "improbable bees?"
Willie JJ wrote:Reggaeblues wrote:But then again..."Improbable honey?" Anyone ever seen that item for sale in the local farm shop? Is it made by "improbable bees?"
They don't sell that on your local farm Reggaeblues, only on Improbable Farm, which I think may be in Bedfordshire.
No No. We have Local Honey from local bees.
What always makes me laugh is when people try to sell you organic honey. Do the bees the know the difference between pollen on organic trees and plants and non organic. Brilliant.
Willie JJ wrote:les taylor wrote:What always makes me laugh is when people try to sell you organic honey. Do the bees the know the difference between pollen on organic trees and plants and non organic. Brilliant.
Warning! Boring theory coming:
I'm no beekeeper Les, but I guess that there is a limit to how far the bees can fly from the hive so if you stick the hives in the middle of an area of organic farming ....
I woke up this morning and never thought that today's topic would be Bee's.
Well according to the Brithish Beekeepers association, Bee's really are busy bees.
How Far Can Bees Fly?
It is possible for bees to fly as far as 5 miles for food, however an average distance would be less than a mile from the hive. A strong colony flies the equivalent distance of to the moon every day!
How Fast Can Bees Fly?
Normal top speed of a worker would be about 15-20mph (21-28km/h) when flying to a food source and about 12mph (17km/h) when returning laden down nectar, pollen, propolis or water.
So what can we deduce from this. Bee's may or not stay inside your organic field.
And shoe horning this back into the topic honey is probably one of those flavour descriptors that is known world wide. Although there nearly 20,000 types of bee and they live on every continent except antartica. Not much pollen down there. So honey will taste differently according to where you are as well.
Bit like whisky then...subject to local climate and geography. My, what an educational topic this is!
BTW, Finally got my tastebuds round a sample of Glenfarclas 15 yesterday, offered by Milroy's. Maybe it's the new bottling - it always tasted "closed" before, or what MJ might have said "tightly combined flavours", but yesterday I really enjoyed it. My tasting notes? No weetabix, gorse, gauze, victoria principal or improbable honey. just "nice and sweet sherried whisky with an aftertaste that lasted all the way down Oxford Street".
Does that make sense?
How would an Australian, for example, rate the ARDBEG 10?
NOSE: Beauty, mate! Like the breeze off Byron Bay...
PALATE: Sheila's underarm sweat, with lemon juice splashing on a shrimp and bacon barbie
FINISH: Longer than the drive to Perth...
...or an american?
NOSE: AmTrak deisel pulling into Chicago central.
PALATE: Initial hit of lemon meringue pie, followed by hamburgers on rye with a whiff of maple syrup.
FINISH: Longer than the ride to LA...
I spent some time working in the fitness industry and Joe Weider perfected this type of publications with his muscle magazines. Meaning all the athletes featured always seem to discuss there success with body building products that he seem to produce (quite brilliant from a business view). It was not until magazines like Flex and some other under ground magazine appeared that the squat rack got tipped over.
Have a Merry Christmass and a Happy New Year.
There certainly is all kinds of honey. Producers can simply put their hives in the middle of a big patch of heather (or whatever), and the bees have no need to fly any further afield. I visited a museum dedicated to bees and honey in Quebec, and found it amazing how different the various honeys tasted (and I don't mean Sheila).
It appears there is more to being certified organic than just the flowers used:
http://www.theorganicreport.com/pages/4 ... _honey.cfm
Non-organic beekeepers routinely use sulfa compounds and antibiotics to control bee diseases, carbolic acid to remove honey from the hive and calcium cyanide to kill colonies before extracting the honey, and of course conventional honeybees gather nectar from plants that have been sprayed with pesticides.
Eeewww!! Gimme Sheila's armpits(or any other musky hollow) anyday!
Against such odds(humanly perpetrated, naturally)i'd say honey certainly is improbable...
I'd keep in mind that the above info was provided by a website dedicated to organic produce, and was intended to be as distasteful as possible. Propaganda, in other words. That doesn't mean it isn't true, especially as it relates to large-scale producers, but I'll bet lots of artisanal apiaries would be horrified to be painted with that brush, whether they were certified organic or not.
I am not to concerned about the honey, when it is common practice to spray cerial crops with Roundup to allow an earlier harvest. That cerial grain makes flour, breakfast cerials, beer, whisky or is fed to the livestock that ends up in the stores as consumable meat products.
So what is a little antibiotic transfer into your honey
So to keep this on theme, many people think of Dalwhinnie as a honeyed whisky. Anyway here's a picture of my honey.
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